Tons of sites are in line with what Google wants and they don't rank well.Originally Posted by alex427
Tons of sites are in line with what Google wants and they don't rank well.
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Think you will find those of that had sites totally dropped from google with no explanation on their part...I remember when comus got hacked google sent emails saying your site has been suspended ect, so you got it fixed and hey presto you were back in the rankings....what is pissing me off is you get dropped with no explanation of why they dropped you, at least give a offending url or html whatever and give us the chance to put it right!...thats what I would of expected from google same as they alert you if you have malware on your sites...but to be totally dropped without a reason???? fucking sucks!Tons of sites are in line with what Google wants and they don't rank well.
Forgot to remove duplication problem on one part while i did on on second part,GTW informed me about that only after penalization.Also one tip to check are you affected by google panda in case if you ranked good previously:check rankings on international google versions.Noticed how i still rank good there but most of traffic coming from usa google anyway so it's not much use for me.
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You were hit by Panda if your raankings dropped in the US on 24th Feb or other English speaking countries on 11th April. I've started to work out what some of the problems are and I've started getting some of my sites back. If your site is dropped suddenly down to nothing, it means you're probably doing at least two things Google doesn't like, so even when you fix one you don't come back. Cross linking combined with duplicate content was my problem, but now there's also the content farm algo to deal with.
...Forgot to remove duplication problem... what duplication problem?
I added this tag in the header:
<link rel="canonical" href="http://www.anydomain.com">
reason I added is that I keep seeing this in my log file
http://mydomain.com/?x=1893.7290.1252.1980.
not exactly sure what "x=1893.7290.1252.1980." the end can be any number
I am using Arrow Script Xtreme and smart thumbs ... smart thumbs is up to date it
When it comes to cross linking,i doing only one way link exchanges between my sites since A-B link exchanges don't have much value anyway.
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There have been many updates and additions since the first Panda rollout. They say they're up to v2.2 now and people that weren't affected by the initial Panda may find they were hit by a later version. One source who claims to know a google employee (not Cutts) says there have been exactly 17 revisions to date. Even if the number is false, there is near-consensus among SEO guys it's in the ballpark.
If you've been affected by Panda, addressing issues such as dupe or spun content, too large a ratio of low-quality versus high-quality subpages (relatively speaking), too many backlinks you might have sollicited or bought yourself, not enough relevant content above-the-fold, the complete lack of a USP, etc, WILL bring your rankings back... up to a point.
To my knowledge, no full recoveries have been reported yet.
You know, ever since the Caffeine update, Google started rolling out update after update, one more experimental than the next and sometimes even doing random (and very large-scale) statistical A/B-testing. Caffeine introduced a huge improvement to their processing ability. It allows them to "think bigger" and test algos on huge samples in no time. To play around with ranking signals that, up until Caffeine, were simply impossible to account for.
Least they could do is let us know when they're "testing" something. Oh and it'd be dandy if they could elaborate on their understanding of "high quality" too.
Google used to be cute and sparkly, everybody wanted to do her. But now she's a frivolous Delilah -- always fickle, always vague.
Jab, what is a USP?
Why would they do that?
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I've a couple of sites that have recovered to better traffic than they ever had pre-Panda, but what I don't know is if they were actually affected by Panda itself or whether it was just the remnants of a previous penalty. The dates they came back on seem to correspond with the changes other WMs have reported. Some more of mine have also recovered but not fully, more like 65%.
To avoid confusion and counter a growing animosity among those that fill their SERPS. No-one's asking for hard data, an SE company has every interest in keeping their signals from being gamed. But too much secrecy beyond that will hurt them as well.
E.g. we were recently told Panda isn't part of their live algo. It's a routine, periodically run against the whole of their database. They might run one version and observe the interaction between the live algo and Panda's handywork. Then they'll go back, work on it for weeks, add a bunch of new stuff as well, and run a revision. Why not mention that earlier?
Some people don't have months to wait and no-one knows what's going on. Everyone agrees you can't "build for Google" or exist by their grace. But lots of good sites just can't handle the margin drop at the moment. Do they invest? Do they wait -- or call it quits? Google, imo, would be smart to relieve some of the uncertainty where they can. Like giving a heads-up on the wee fact their SERPS might reflect anything but your actual "worth" for months.
Their Ads department would be thrilled to hear Search is causing less pointless headaches.
Meh. Utopia, I know. End of rant.
60%-70% looks familiar. Got a couple of those myself. And yes, it seems this last Panda revision is bringing some affected sites back to where they were (and beyond), albeit mostly with a different ranking (keyword) profile it seems, not sure yet.
While webmasters surely crank out higher averages of sites than the normal user, they surely aren't the ones filling the SERPs. Google has no use for webmasters and SEOs, in fact I bet they'd love getting rid of both, would make their job so much easier.
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Imo a webmaster is anyone running a site and an SEO is anyone trying to maximize their SE potential -- while abiding by their guidelines mind you (people tend to reserve the term for those trying to game them).
If you mean Google has no interest in catering to a webmaster's quest for profit, I agree. No-one has a right to their traffic, or even to be valued at "worth" -or at all- in their rankings. It's their service.
But some would say their market share comes with a responsibility to try and avoid unneeded market upheaval -- I'm just saying it would be nice
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