You are forced to sell your traff to Tubes through Traffic Holder

daveM · December 17th, 2009, 03:05 AM

I just ran into a serious problem.

I like Traffic Holder, however i do not want to sell my traffic to Tubes. Basically Trafficholder has a personal Blacklist feature, however as i found out you cannot put more then 100 buyers into the blacklist. At the moment i just reached 100 blacklisted tubes. So from now on, I cannot stop new tube buyers from buying traffic from me. Therefore, I am forced to sell traffic to sites i dont like.

Is your blacklist on TH also limited to 100 items, or is it just a policy for nonVIP sellers?

TheBeginning · December 17th, 2009, 03:44 AM

Why open a post here if you can also open a icq window and ask it to their support ?

daveM · December 17th, 2009, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBeginning

Why open a post here if you can also open a icq window and ask it to their support ?

well the support told me that they cannot increase the 100 limit.

TheBeginning · December 17th, 2009, 04:33 AM

Tell them that they are fucking crazy !

pf69.com · December 17th, 2009, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by daveM

well the support told me that they cannot increase the 100 limit.

and why don't you stop selling traffic to them?
send your extra traffic to FHG's or to some other site you own... maybe some blog...

Best-In-BC · December 17th, 2009, 03:25 PM

I dont really see the problem here,find another broker or use your traffic to build your own tube and then you will stop from falling behind

monsterman · December 17th, 2009, 03:41 PM

i see the problem selling traffic to sites with big and/or illegal movies but i think there u can set your domains to sell only to direct orders and the same niche/type of yours

Dred · December 17th, 2009, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Best-In-BC

...find another broker or use your traffic to build your own tube...

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Originally Posted by monsterman

...set your domains to sell only to direct orders and the same niche/type of yours

All of these are viable solutions, i don't see the problem. You're NOT forced to sell to tubes...you have plenty of other options that will pull your traffic out of the tube pool.

Dodge · December 17th, 2009, 05:45 PM

TH just doesn't want to increase the Blacklist for you. If you can blacklist 100, then why couldn't you do 1k, or 100k. Its a simple setting on their end, not like they'd have to rewrite their entire script.

They just dont want to mess with it.

You should have other options that can stop this like you do with TA, but if you dont then drop them and move on to another Broker.

Shane · December 18th, 2009, 02:59 PM

traffic holder blows in my book. They hit me for a fee on a epass deposite that they said was standard practice that they didnt hit me for 2 days before when i deposited. Then on top of that 9% to withdraw my funds. Good solid business thier :/

And on top of that i can look threw their sale list and see a good bit of hitbotting sites. So i guess they don't care what they sell back to the buyer.

FrozenJag · December 18th, 2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane

traffic holder blows in my book. They hit me for a fee on a epass deposite that they said was standard practice that they didnt hit me for 2 days before when i deposited. Then on top of that 9% to withdraw my funds. Good solid business thier :/

And on top of that i can look threw their sale list and see a good bit of hitbotting sites. So i guess they don't care what they sell back to the buyer.

Oh wow 9 percent?

On Epass withdraws they dont charge anything to my knowledge. I would try that one if there is a next time.

Shane · December 18th, 2009, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FrozenJag

Oh wow 9 percent?

On Epass withdraws they dont charge anything to my knowledge. I would try that one if there is a next time.

Well that may not be the normal % that they charge. What happened to me is I always used protraffic but they do not have alot of pornstar traffic so looked at a couple of the other brokers. I noicted that traffic holder had a good bit of pornstar sellers (some known botters) but alot that were good so i gave it a shot. Deposited 100 via epass to test it. Picked a set sites and went to town. In a few days burned the 100 bucks. So went in and deposited another 100 via epass (same way i did the 1st time) and got nailed for a deposite fee. Ended up with 93.50. So that pissed me off so i said fuck it i will just withdraw the 93.50 and just do what i can with protraffic.

ask for the withdraw and the next day its denied. I have a persoanl epass accont. In the denial i get

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We're unable to send your payment, because of:
Invalid ePassporte UserID. In order to refund an ePurchase transaction please contact ePassporte. Otherwise please contact TH Support. but a 9% processing fee will be applied for a refund.

so i guess they want me to try to get epass to refund it? I have no clue. I made the payment to them so not sure why they can't do it themselfs. Epass is simply the gateway. Thats like telling me to call viaa for a refund when i bought something at wallmart. Anyways thats my experience with Traffic Holder.

Best-In-BC · December 18th, 2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane

traffic holder blows in my book. They hit me for a fee on a epass deposite that they said was standard practice that they didnt hit me for 2 days before when i deposited. Then on top of that 9% to withdraw my funds. Good solid business thier :/

And on top of that i can look threw their sale list and see a good bit of hitbotting sites. So i guess they don't care what they sell back to the buyer.

yeah, ive been noticing alot of crap apearing in th latly

Ravo · December 19th, 2009, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Shane

traffic holder blows in my book. They hit me for a fee on a epass deposite that they said was standard practice that they didnt hit me for 2 days before when i deposited. Then on top of that 9% to withdraw my funds. Good solid business thier :/

At www.BuyFPCtraffic.com do not charge for any type of deposit; epass, credit card or Paypal. We welcome your business, and don't think we should charge you to be our customer!

nation-x · December 19th, 2009, 06:15 AM

If you aren't selling to Ravo you are giving away your traffic... pure fact.

PinkFloyd · December 19th, 2009, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravo

At www.BuyFPCtraffic.com do not charge for any type of deposit; epass, credit card or Paypal. We welcome your business, and don't think we should charge you to be our customer!

Can I send you raw niche traffic? Or do I have to send traffic form all niches to one url hxxp://www.fpcTraffic2.com/raw/click.cgi?account=xxx?

Ravo · December 19th, 2009, 01:00 PM

We have just one URL to send traffic to. But remember, we buy all your traffic, regardless of niche. We do the targetting through our traffic distribution script.

JACOBKELL · December 19th, 2009, 01:08 PM

Ravo you should make completly new system and make it like traffic shop which have best tehnical system at the moment.

Ravo · December 19th, 2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JACOBKELL

Ravo you should make completly new system and make it like traffic shop which have best tehnical system at the moment.

I think you, and many other people, misunderstand our system. We are not a traffic brokerage (where we would re-sell your traffic for you for a cut of the revenue).

FPCTraffic is a traffic BUYING site; we buy *all* the traffic you send to us, even if we don't have a buyer for it. In some cases we lose money on some clicks, but it's made up for with higher profits on other clicks. We also buy a portion of the traffic for our own sites.

So, I *do* agree that our system (from a technical and even user-friendly point of view) is not very sophisticated, and in fact dated. It's evolved over the past 9 years; that's why it *looks* clunky. But, believe me, the system is very effective and very flexible from an admin point of view. It's highly configurable for both buyers' and sellers' accounts. I believe that's why I can complete against more sophisticated looking systems; I can give our clients exactly what they want.

Have I thought abour opening a true skimmed traffic brokerage? Certainly. But, the space is too crowded already. (altho' as some people know, I have developed a banner brokerage system). I'll stick the system I have and upgrade as I go. The scripting is very robust, and seems to scale very nicely.

Sorry for the somewhat long winded post, but I just wanted to share my point of view on the whole thing.

Dred · December 19th, 2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nation-x

If you aren't selling to Ravo you are giving away your traffic... pure fact.

I agree...Sig spot for selling to Ravo and FPCTraffic!

I stopped selling to TH a loOong time ago and couldn't be happier with my choice.

December 17th, 2009, 03:05 AM	#1 (permalink)
daveM Quality, Quality, Quality Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 177	You are forced to sell your traff to Tubes through Traffic Holder I just ran into a serious problem. I like Traffic Holder, however i do not want to sell my traffic to Tubes. Basically Trafficholder has a personal Blacklist feature, however as i found out you cannot put more then 100 buyers into the blacklist. At the moment i just reached 100 blacklisted tubes. So from now on, I cannot stop new tube buyers from buying traffic from me. Therefore, I am forced to sell traffic to sites i dont like. Is your blacklist on TH also limited to 100 items, or is it just a policy for nonVIP sellers?

December 17th, 2009, 03:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Best-In-BC Traffic Superstar Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Canadian Posts: 5,204	I dont really see the problem here,find another broker or use your traffic to build your own tube and then you will stop from falling behind __________________ Top Scripts: Trade Pulse - Smart Scripts \| Buy Real Traffic! FPC TRAFFIC!

December 17th, 2009, 03:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
monsterman Serious Contributor Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 988	i see the problem selling traffic to sites with big and/or illegal movies but i think there u can set your domains to sell only to direct orders and the same niche/type of yours __________________ my webmaster page \| Best Traffic Source EVAR \| My TGP Script

December 17th, 2009, 05:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
Dodge Serious Contributor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,188	TH just doesn't want to increase the Blacklist for you. If you can blacklist 100, then why couldn't you do 1k, or 100k. Its a simple setting on their end, not like they'd have to rewrite their entire script. They just dont want to mess with it. You should have other options that can stop this like you do with TA, but if you dont then drop them and move on to another Broker. __________________ Real 18 Girls

December 18th, 2009, 02:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
Shane I love AskDamageX.com Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 154	traffic holder blows in my book. They hit me for a fee on a epass deposite that they said was standard practice that they didnt hit me for 2 days before when i deposited. Then on top of that 9% to withdraw my funds. Good solid business thier :/ And on top of that i can look threw their sale list and see a good bit of hitbotting sites. So i guess they don't care what they sell back to the buyer. __________________ PornStar Traffic & Trades

December 17th, 2009, 03:44 AM	#2 (permalink)
TheBeginning Serious Contributor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Spain (Mallorca) Posts: 1,752	Why open a post here if you can also open a icq window and ask it to their support ?

December 17th, 2009, 04:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
TheBeginning Serious Contributor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Spain (Mallorca) Posts: 1,752	Tell them that they are fucking crazy !

December 19th, 2009, 06:15 AM	#15 (permalink)
nation-x LifestyleAmateurs.com Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 8,684	If you aren't selling to Ravo you are giving away your traffic... pure fact. __________________ The only traffic I would ever buy: Traffic Out Traffic Trades: TGP and Blog Trades

December 19th, 2009, 01:00 PM	#17 (permalink)
Ravo Traffic Guru Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 246	We have just one URL to send traffic to. But remember, we buy all your traffic, regardless of niche. We do the targetting through our traffic distribution script.

December 19th, 2009, 01:08 PM	#18 (permalink)
JACOBKELL Jack-of-all-trades Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Croatia Posts: 3,586	Ravo you should make completly new system and make it like traffic shop which have best tehnical system at the moment.