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Old July 5th, 2008, 11:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old July 5th, 2008, 11:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'd post the runner ups but the list is too long
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Old July 6th, 2008, 12:08 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It looks like most of the stuff on there is actually new as well. The other tube sites I've seen looked like they just had a lot of 80s/90s porn.
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Old July 6th, 2008, 01:00 AM   #4 (permalink)
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crazy stuff. I predict that there will be a time in the future where sponsors themselves will hand out 30 minute clips. There's no competition because those sponsors won't be selling 'canned porn' but direct adult experiences (cams), adult services (dating sites) and male health products (penis pills, enlargers, etc). No copyright problems because the sponsors either custom produced the materials for cheap in Eastern Europe or legally produced porn in Asia. Also, no conflict in business models since there's no cannibalizing (ie., content vs content)
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Old July 6th, 2008, 01:13 AM   #5 (permalink)
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crazy stuff. I predict that there will be a time in the future where sponsors themselves will hand out 30 minute clips. There's no competition because those sponsors won't be selling 'canned porn' but direct adult experiences (cams), adult services (dating sites) and male health products (penis pills, enlargers, etc). No copyright problems because the sponsors either custom produced the materials for cheap in Eastern Europe or legally produced porn in Asia. Also, no conflict in business models since there's no cannibalizing (ie., content vs content)
There are only so many surfers you can sell cam shows and dating to. Besides, someone must pay for producing the content, which I have my doubts about when it comes to cams/dating sponsors.
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Old July 6th, 2008, 01:15 AM   #6 (permalink)
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crazy stuff. I predict that there will be a time in the future where sponsors themselves will hand out 30 minute clips.
I'm pretty sure that is already happening
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Old July 6th, 2008, 01:25 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Old July 6th, 2008, 01:48 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I love that quote
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Old July 6th, 2008, 04:35 AM   #9 (permalink)
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It's only stupid if they are cannibalizing their business model. However, if free and legal (sponsor owns the copyright) custom-produced/canned content is used to upsell to noncompeting products on services it might not be "stupid." Another possible direction are legal tube sites that publish sponsor-distributed semi-niche content to upsell "superniche" or custom-created/crowdsourced 'webisodes'.

As for the argument that there's only so many surfers you can upsell to cams, dating, products, those are just the services and products that are currently being pushed. There may be others that may also fit this promotion strategy.

NOTE: I am not condoning tube sites (and similar content distribution models). Copyright infringment is a serious problem. However, instead of letting the conversation begin and end there, webmasters might want to look at the big picture. Just as CJ sites were superseded by TGP and TGP superseded by tube sites, webmasters should keep their eyes open as to the differing ways this evolution will play out. All I'm saying is given the current trends, I wouldn't be surprised if things turn out this way. I don't wish for it to happen. So don't blame the messenger/seer.

Maybe instead of denying the impact that tube and Web 2.0 content/promotion models have on how content is promoted and monetized online, webmasters should look this trend in the eye and see how they can ride (and possibly influence) the wave instead of being swept under it.
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Old July 6th, 2008, 04:48 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Maybe instead of denying the impact that tube and Web 2.0 content/promotion models have on how content is promoted and monetized online, webmasters should look this trend in the eye and see how they can ride (and possibly influence) the wave instead of being swept under it.
Viacom didn't buy in to the whole Web 2.0 buzzword, and the courts agreed, so I don't agree that content producers just have to deal with it because it's the new thing to do. Tubes need to get the idea that hiding behind unfiltered uploads is BS.
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Old July 6th, 2008, 07:20 AM   #11 (permalink)
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My question is what comes after tube sites? How can people one up 30 min free porn videos?
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Old July 6th, 2008, 08:19 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Viacom didn't buy in to the whole Web 2.0 buzzword, and the courts agreed, so I don't agree that content producers just have to deal with it because it's the new thing to do. Tubes need to get the idea that hiding behind unfiltered uploads is BS.
exactly.

has there been even one adult tube site taken to court over this shit yet? my guess is no...

I also don't see legal tube sites replacing quality niche content or solo-girl stuff at any point.
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Old July 7th, 2008, 03:38 PM   #13 (permalink)
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heh, eporner has my video on http://www.eporner.com/movie/51540
Even, if i offer it as free trailer on my tour of vintagecuties paysite on http://www.eporner.com/movie/51540, it doesn't meen thatt this video can be publicly showed on other sites without my aproval, right?

What should i do to make them remove the video? DMCA link is fake
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heh, eporner has my video on http://www.eporner.com/movie/51540
Even, if i offer it as free trailer on my tour of vintagecuties paysite on http://www.eporner.com/movie/51540, it doesn't meen thatt this video can be publicly showed on other sites without my aproval, right?

What should i do to make them remove the video? DMCA link is fake
If you produce.. chances are they have something of yours. We have about 500 videos pending removal from there. Yeah... bogus fucking Dmca page. His email is: eporner@eporner.com
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Old July 7th, 2008, 03:53 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I don't produce, but i have legal content and i want it showed on my site
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Old July 7th, 2008, 05:49 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I predict that there will be a time in the future where sponsors themselves will hand out 30 minute clips.
They allready are... ND has had 10 minute clips for a very long time now and Brazzers allows some tube sites to use some of their older full length scenes.
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Old July 8th, 2008, 12:26 AM   #18 (permalink)
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They allready are... ND has had 10 minute clips for a very long time now and Brazzers allows some tube sites to use some of their older full length scenes.

well brazzers owns one of the biggest illegal tube sites out there, so that's not really a surprise....
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Old July 8th, 2008, 03:39 PM   #19 (permalink)
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well brazzers owns one of the biggest illegal tube sites out there, so that's not really a surprise....
Which one is that?
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Old July 8th, 2008, 03:45 PM   #20 (permalink)
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crazy stuff. I predict that there will be a time in the future where sponsors themselves will hand out 30 minute clips.

I've already predicted this in the past.. I said it would be 5 min clips then 10 min clips then full promo scenes.
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