Thread: What's the lowest prod you allow for trades?

I've been wondering this for awhile now.

What's the lowest productivity you allow for trades?

I recently set the lowest prod allowed on my sites to 100% minimum and anything lower than that gets auto-disabled by the script until they hit 100% prod, then they're automatically re-enabled until they fall again.

Good thing about setting the minimum prod allowed to 100%, my site went from around 2.3k/day to 3.5k/day almost overnight.

I just can't help but wonder if my site would grow more if I lower it and if I do, to what should I lower it to.
80%? 70%?

Opinions and thoughts appreciated.
thanks!

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I've taken a few different approaches to this, but in general, I usually don't allow trades which fall below less than half of the average trade prod. So if a site is getting 200% prod from trades, I'd have a 100% minimum.

I built an option into my script to lower the return ratio for sites which fall below X% of the average, so instead of just cutting them off all at once, it gradually tapers off the trade unles they improve.

This can be an impedement for new trades though as well; once in a while a trade which is only sending like 100% prod at lower traffic levels, can eventually turn into a 200%+ trade when it starts sending more. However sites like that are few and far between.

i just leave it alone, none of my trades have a auto disable for prod, but im also using a custom algo

Originally Posted by almaz

do you mind if I ask you what script are you using?

Trade Expert - ymmv

btw, you mentioned your traffic went from 2.3k to 3.5k, but what about your overall clicks and return ratio,

i would think the strain of sending back traffic to low prod trades would have a negative effect since your not getting back enough clicks

Originally Posted by stonehammer

btw, you mentioned your traffic went from 2.3k to 3.5k, but what about your overall clicks and return ratio,

i would think the strain of sending back traffic to low prod trades would have a negative effect since your not getting back enough clicks

Current 24 hour stats from trades alone, not including bookmarks, unknown and SE traffic:
raws: 2458
uniques: 2124
clicks to trades: 2000
clicks to galleries: 2451
total clicks: 4451
out to trades: 3181
total trade prod: 181%

Current TOTAL 24 hour stats from trades, bookmarks, unknown and SE traffic:
raws: 3455
uniques: 2683
clicks to trades: 3252
clicks to galleries: 4114
total clicks: 7366
out to trades: 3242
total trade prod: 213%

I think 100% is reasonable, why would you want to keep a trade that has a prod of 40%?

any site that can only manage 40 to 70%, you are getting crap traffic with an extra side of poop.

bump, hows it going

Originally Posted by stonehammer

bump, hows it going

Hovering around 3.9 - 4.1k nowadays...time to find replacement trades for the trades that died.

nice..

I think any trade is better than no trade. It's the traffic script's job to figure out where to send the traffic and it should be basing it on a lot more than prod. Things like country, uniqueness, click again ratios, image loading and overall effect seem more important to me than just prod.

I've also noticed that my sites that get a lot of SE traffic have very bad outgoing prod. But I still trade with them.

You shouldn't worry about prod. You should worry about conversion unless you are of course selling your traffic to broker. I never sell my traffic and there is a reason for that. Prod is outdated.

Prod is nothing and take it from someone who buy over a million unique per day per month for ads spot over several networks.

If you haven't got a clue you should read that long thread i type out a while back.

After you get done checking whether the traffic is real/cheating/from a poor region/etc, it helps to encourage trades that are sending people who actually want to be on your site and click on your links.

If they don't want to click on your links, then why bother encouraging more visitors who also won't click on your links, when instead you could be encouraging visits from people who would want to click on your links? Seems very counter productive to me.

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

it helps to encourage trades that are sending people who actually want to be on your site and click on your links.

If they don't want to click on your links, then why bother encouraging more visitors who also won't click on your links, when instead you could be encouraging visits from people who would want to click on your links? Seems very counter productive to me.

i think so too, but thats just my opinion, thats why im curious how what results dred is getting after lowering his min prod

Back in the days I didn't allowed active trades with a production under 120%....but now I do allow trades with 100%....still nothing below that. The ones below 100 I'm setting them on passive trades, and that only after I've checked the history of that trade.

Originally Posted by stonehammer

i think so too, but thats just my opinion, thats why im curious how what results dred is getting after lowering his min prod

Of course some trades died. The surviving trades actually sent more traffic so it balanced out to being NO DIFFERENCE...lol

So I went back to what i had before, no minimum prod...I may as well get traffic from the lower prod sites, it just means more peeps see my site and click.