RedTube No Longer an Affiliate of TwistysCash

Shap · February 17th, 2008, 07:42 PM

I'm going to do my best to keep this post short.

Our policy as a company is that we will accept any affiliate who is willing to run an honest business and abide by our rules for sending signups to TwistysCash. This goes for TGPs, Blogs, Review Sites, Pay Sites AND Tube Sites.

Regarding RedTube: When we agreed to accept RedTube as an affiliate, he indicated he would follow our rules and WAS in the process of working towards becoming a legitimate site. We took his word for it and decided to give him a shot. Then on Friday, in a separate post, it was pointed out to me that Red Tube was breaking some of our rules. I checked it out and it was true - strike one. I contacted RedTube right away and had our Twistys content removed. He was very quick to fix the issues I brought up and asked to re-activate his affiliate links. I told him to wait.

I spent some time going through RedTube page by page, link by link. I was looking for ANY indication that he was sticking to his earlier promise - ANY attempt to evolve the site towards a cleaner more honest Tube site. But I found nothing. His videos are still 25 minutes long and they still give no credit to the copyright/site holder. Strikes two and three.

As of Friday afternoon, he has not sent us any traffic. We have decided we will NOT accept any more RedTube traffic until we are convinced he is taking the steps necessary to become a legitimate Tube site. Right now I see no signs of that so he is currently not an active TwistysCash affiliate. He is no longer permitted to use our videos and is not being paid for signups. However, as I mentioned at the beginning of this post, if he DOES take positive steps and demonstrates he is cleaning up his site, we will commence doing business with him again pending another review of RedTube.

JD · February 17th, 2008, 07:59 PM

AmateurFlix · February 17th, 2008, 09:19 PM

BOSS · February 17th, 2008, 09:52 PM

thanks for the update, i was wondering how this was going to turn out. Expect an email from us soon

ffmihai · February 17th, 2008, 10:19 PM

way to go! giving away 25min movies was already wrong, but giving them without credits for the producers is theft!

paul markham · February 17th, 2008, 11:21 PM

With enough pressure like this they will start to go legit. Good one Shap.

vanderweb · February 18th, 2008, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul markham

With enough pressure like this they will start to go legit. Good one Shap.

http://www.redtube.com/8259 ?

lex · February 18th, 2008, 12:45 AM

Good move.

boneless · February 18th, 2008, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

He is no longer permitted to use our videos and is not being paid for signups. However, as I mentioned at the beginning of this post, if he DOES take positive steps and demonstrates he is cleaning up his site, we will commence doing business with him again pending another review of RedTube.

once a thief..............

Crunch · February 18th, 2008, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanderweb

http://www.redtube.com/8259 ?

He is submitting his own stuff to websites like these now.

paul markham · February 18th, 2008, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crunch

He is submitting his own stuff to websites like these now.

So long as my advert is there it's fine. I'm testing out the traffic. So far AEBN do well and I'm seeing what else works.

basschick · February 18th, 2008, 01:35 AM

well, short didn't work out too well

good post and thanks for keeping us in the loop. that's one of the things i've always particularly liked about you

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

I'm going to do my best to keep this post short.

Our policy as a company is that we will accept any affiliate who is willing to run an honest business and abide by our rules for sending signups to TwistysCash. This goes for TGPs, Blogs, Review Sites, Pay Sites AND Tube Sites.

Regarding RedTube: When we agreed to accept RedTube as an affiliate, he indicated he would follow our rules and WAS in the process of working towards becoming a legitimate site. We took his word for it and decided to give him a shot. Then on Friday, in a separate post, it was pointed out to me that Red Tube was breaking some of our rules. I checked it out and it was true - strike one. I contacted RedTube right away and had our Twistys content removed. He was very quick to fix the issues I brought up and asked to re-activate his affiliate links. I told him to wait.

I spent some time going through RedTube page by page, link by link. I was looking for ANY indication that he was sticking to his earlier promise - ANY attempt to evolve the site towards a cleaner more honest Tube site. But I found nothing. His videos are still 25 minutes long and they still give no credit to the copyright/site holder. Strikes two and three.

As of Friday afternoon, he has not sent us any traffic. We have decided we will NOT accept any more RedTube traffic until we are convinced he is taking the steps necessary to become a legitimate Tube site. Right now I see no signs of that so he is currently not an active TwistysCash affiliate. He is no longer permitted to use our videos and is not being paid for signups. However, as I mentioned at the beginning of this post, if he DOES take positive steps and demonstrates he is cleaning up his site, we will commence doing business with him again pending another review of RedTube.

shunga · February 18th, 2008, 06:25 AM

Waiting to see a change there first is good leverage. I thought your previous approach lacked that. I am glad that through this you found www.removeyourcontent.com. I think that can be much more a carrot and stick policy.

Spence · February 18th, 2008, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul markham

So long as my advert is there it's fine. I'm testing out the traffic. So far AEBN do well and I'm seeing what else works.

Wow, then maybe you ought to shut your mouth about this entire situation.

With enough pressure from everyone else, just not you? Pretty standup.

paul markham · February 18th, 2008, 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spence

Wow, then maybe you ought to shut your mouth about this entire situation.

With enough pressure from everyone else, just not you? Pretty standup.

Sorry but if they are using my content with my permission and sending me traffic what's the problem?

They are trying to get rid of the illegal content on their site by taking sponsor content, if they don't get sponsors to give them content they have to buy or allow anyone to upload. What route do you think they should take?

nation-x · February 18th, 2008, 07:16 AM

as usual Paul places his stamp on some shit he has no footing in.

willwank · February 18th, 2008, 07:33 AM

Way to go Shap. +1

zorgman · February 18th, 2008, 11:50 AM

Paul, they are stealing other sponsors content on their site. Twistys just went though all this crap.

Your sponsoring an illegal tube site. A site that stealing from one sponsor and gives to another. Do you think they are good people? Do you think you are really helping the industry by sponsors fuck heads that steal content?

paul markham · February 18th, 2008, 12:37 PM

I understand what you're saying Zorg. The thing is if other affiliates don't send it what am I to do?

You can't tell me to go to the wall.

zorgman · February 18th, 2008, 01:03 PM

So your saying that your other affiliates don't send you traffic so your turning to those that steal and give away full movies to get your sales?

To the wall!

February 17th, 2008, 07:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
Shap I love AskDamageX.com Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 194	RedTube No Longer an Affiliate of TwistysCash I'm going to do my best to keep this post short. Our policy as a company is that we will accept any affiliate who is willing to run an honest business and abide by our rules for sending signups to TwistysCash. This goes for TGPs, Blogs, Review Sites, Pay Sites AND Tube Sites. Regarding RedTube: When we agreed to accept RedTube as an affiliate, he indicated he would follow our rules and WAS in the process of working towards becoming a legitimate site. We took his word for it and decided to give him a shot. Then on Friday, in a separate post, it was pointed out to me that Red Tube was breaking some of our rules. I checked it out and it was true - strike one. I contacted RedTube right away and had our Twistys content removed. He was very quick to fix the issues I brought up and asked to re-activate his affiliate links. I told him to wait. I spent some time going through RedTube page by page, link by link. I was looking for ANY indication that he was sticking to his earlier promise - ANY attempt to evolve the site towards a cleaner more honest Tube site. But I found nothing. His videos are still 25 minutes long and they still give no credit to the copyright/site holder. Strikes two and three. As of Friday afternoon, he has not sent us any traffic. We have decided we will NOT accept any more RedTube traffic until we are convinced he is taking the steps necessary to become a legitimate Tube site. Right now I see no signs of that so he is currently not an active TwistysCash affiliate. He is no longer permitted to use our videos and is not being paid for signups. However, as I mentioned at the beginning of this post, if he DOES take positive steps and demonstrates he is cleaning up his site, we will commence doing business with him again pending another review of RedTube.

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February 18th, 2008, 11:50 AM	#18 (permalink)
zorgman Serious Contributor Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 765	Paul, they are stealing other sponsors content on their site. Twistys just went though all this crap. Your sponsoring an illegal tube site. A site that stealing from one sponsor and gives to another. Do you think they are good people? Do you think you are really helping the industry by sponsors fuck heads that steal content? __________________

February 18th, 2008, 12:37 PM	#19 (permalink)
paul markham Serious Contributor Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 827	I understand what you're saying Zorg. The thing is if other affiliates don't send it what am I to do? You can't tell me to go to the wall. __________________ New content for affiliates every week, new content for members every day. ICQ 213327873 Skype paulmarkham1

February 18th, 2008, 01:03 PM	#20 (permalink)
zorgman Serious Contributor Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 765	So your saying that your other affiliates don't send you traffic so your turning to those that steal and give away full movies to get your sales? To the wall! __________________