productivity factors

**bbhrucy79** · December 2nd, 2011, 06:07 AM

There are plenty of factors for good productivity bw 2 skim sites and generally to make your site grow. I try to add what I know, feel free to add yours! Surely there will be more!

1. using the same sponsor (paysites) as remote site. this is the most important
2. similar or same thumb dimensions
3. similar or same layout of thumbs
4. similar or same background color
5. reasonable skim ( although I think it is overstated, obviously you dont want to piss off your surfers too much, else they just leave your site instead of clicking on remote site ) - I would say bw 33% and 65% is okay, but whether higher than this skim will bring better results and make your site grow ... I strongly doubt it. I feel most important is point 1.
6. .htaccess file properly set up with expiry headers. Google this, but the idea is that this will speed up browsing for returning visitors tons by caching often used graphics images in browser cache. This is very important!
7. Reasonably small thumb sizes for faster rendering, say 10-15kb.
8. better than normal skim setting 4 bookmarkers and noref_in, notrades traffic, so returning surfers get that visiting back often will mean new content AND better browsing experience!
9. Tons of content
10. setting image dimensions for all thumbs and also graphics elements to speed up rendering.
11. having the style info in the <head></head> instead of referencing an external .css file.
12. TOP LISTS! Thumbs top lists, text top lists, the more the merrier - as long as it does not throw off layout.
13. Sorting your top list by .... I say: by 24 hour unique clicks
14. Obviously at least a strong VPS or better a strong dedi. server
15. The rotator script and the trade script (algo) and it's settings, the template of your index page ... this can actually be the subject of new discussion.
16. The layout of your site ( proportion of thumbs blocks to top lists and ads ).

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**stonehammer** · December 2nd, 2011, 08:34 AM

i cant think of anything to add

maybe just similar type of content rather then same sponsor

**allniche** · December 2nd, 2011, 09:02 AM

17. Whether the moon is in alignment with Saturn.

I think I saw a post here where someone (I believe askdamagex?) suggested to match the type of thumbnails for best results. For instance if the trade's thumbs tend to focus on face shots as opposed to full body shots, etc. and whether it matches your thumbs. I can't say that I tried it but it seems logical to me and I've hardly seen others ever mention it.

For #13 I like sorting by points or "hits owed" in some scripts. 24 hour clicks is much better than just 24 hour uniques In but still if most of those clicks are crap then you might just be rewarding that trade too much at the expense of better ones which you could be pushing more.

I learned that expectations for prod should vary a bit depending on how well you are filtering and exactly how prod is being counted. Someone could have 350 prod but a lot of that could be due to "ninja bots" which "click" 600 times on their site once per hour. It depends on how exactly the script and it's configuration calculates prod. Does it count "notcounted" or "nocookie" for instance? It's easy to be thrown off if you compare apples to oranges.

**bbhrucy79** · December 2nd, 2011, 09:29 AM

exactly!

This is why I think an algo focusing on unique clicks and of course effect is a good idea ;-)

@ninja bots: lol

**Magnetron** · December 2nd, 2011, 12:41 PM

Good Productivity requires a more efficient high volume traffic scheme

replace all thumbs with generic text links
example: site #1, site #2, site #3, etc

label the top of each column a particular category or niche
example: Blondes, Brunettes, Redheads, etc

surfers in search of something in particular will explore link after link in a column if the label is relevant to their desires and because the links are generic, the exploratory clicking of each should be consistent

skim in a particular column should go to a random TGP that has content relevant to the column label, NOT to just any trade

replace the trades in the toplists with generic links
example: EXIT #A, EXIT #B, #EXIT C, etc

label the top of each toplist column a particular category or niche used above
example: Blondes, Brunettes, Redheads, etc

outbound surfers will definately go to TGP that has content relevant to their desires

**bbhrucy79** · December 12th, 2011, 01:35 AM

**bbhrucy79** · January 12th, 2012, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Magnetron

Good Productivity requires a more efficient high volume traffic scheme

replace all thumbs with generic text links
example: site #1, site #2, site #3, etc

label the top of each column a particular category or niche
example: Blondes, Brunettes, Redheads, etc

surfers in search of something in particular will explore link after link in a column if the label is relevant to their desires and because the links are generic, the exploratory clicking of each should be consistent

skim in a particular column should go to a random TGP that has content relevant to the column label, NOT to just any trade

replace the trades in the toplists with generic links
example: EXIT #A, EXIT #B, #EXIT C, etc

label the top of each toplist column a particular category or niche used above
example: Blondes, Brunettes, Redheads, etc

outbound surfers will definately go to TGP that has content relevant to their desires

Thank you Magnetron,

this is very valuable advice. text link sites then are much more productive than tgp sites. this is sort of elusive obvious.

**Filmer** · January 12th, 2012, 02:45 PM

0. Make sure both sites are yours, so you can tweak and optimize as much as you like

**Magnetron** · January 14th, 2012, 06:43 AM

Here is another TextGP scheme to experiment with.

BLONDES
site #1 ( linked to your best selling FHG for this category only )
site #2 ( linked to your 2nd best selling FHG etc )
site #3 ( linked to your 3rd best selling FHG etc )
site #4 ( linked to your best trade partner TGP for this category only )
site #5 ( linked to your 2nd best trade partner TGP etc )
site #6 ( linked to your 3rd best trade partner TGP etc )
site #7 ( 4th )
site #8 ( 5th )
site #8 ( 6th )
site #9 ( 7th )
site #10 ( 8th )
site #11 ( 9th )
site #12 ( 10th )

The most exploring will always occur at the top of the column.

Up until row 15, outbound clicks to trade partners should be conistent.

Link exploration should drastically die off after row 15.

**Magnetron** · January 14th, 2012, 06:56 AM

Regarding the last post:

"best trade partner" should be based on Quality, not Quantity.

These "Top Ten Partners" would then be rewarded with Quantity as well as Quality, while at the bottom of the page can be randomized categorized columns to ALL partners.

**stonehammer** · January 14th, 2012, 07:45 AM

u got any sites like that ??

**bbhrucy79** · January 14th, 2012, 09:32 AM

Lighthouse Teenies - Hq barely legal teen series and movies

The owner of this site obviously is in possession of the 'Jedi power' Magnetron described above. Text links leading to the galleries ... We can all learn from the layout of this site.

Layout is King

**Magnetron** · January 14th, 2012, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by stonehammer

u got any sites like that ??

I employ a similar text link strategy on my own site - the result being the simulation of a directory which gives the surfer an immediate presentation of options in conjunction with the experience of a surprise reward behind a blind link - making all choices less blind and thus more targeted.

**stonehammer** · January 14th, 2012, 06:35 PM

ah ok....thxs for the replies bbhrucy and magnetron, i went to explore both sites

still not sure if text links like that can have better prod then thumbs

**Magnetron** · January 16th, 2012, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by stonehammer

still not sure if text links like that can have better prod then thumbs

The bulk of traffic entering any TGP never has any intention of making a purchase and will always click more on thumbs than on text. If you don't give them ANY thumbs to click on, they have no choice but to leave -or- click on text links. Those who are willing to spend money are willing to stay, explore, evaluate and make comparisons regarding sponsors and their content.

It makes more sense to send surfers to sponsors through text links and traffic for the sake of generating more traffic through thumbs.

In this regard, a TextGP could be built in columns like so

< Column A >
BLONDES ( category title, best selling FHG featuring a blonde )
Thumbnail ( featuring a blonde, skim to a Partner TGP )
Gallery #1 ( 2nd best selling FHG featuring a blonde )
Gallery #2 ( 3rd best selling FHG etc )
Gallery #3 ( random FHG featuring a blonde )
Gallery #4 ( skim to partner TGP )
Gallery #5 ( random FHG etc )
Gallery #6 ( random FHG etc )
Gallery #7 ( skim to partner TGP )
Gallery #8 ( random FHG etc )
Gallery #9 ( random FHG etc )
Gallery #10 ( skim to partner TGP )

< Column B >
BRUNETTES ( category title, best selling FHG featuring a brunette )
Thumbnail ( featuring a brunette, skim to a Partner TGP )
Gallery #1 ( 2nd best selling FHG featuring a brunette )
Gallery #2 ( 3rd best selling FHG etc )
Gallery #3 ( random FHG featuring a brunette )
Gallery #4 ( random FHG etc )
Gallery #5 ( skim to partner TGP )
Gallery #6 ( random FHG etc )
Gallery #7 ( random FHG etc )
Gallery #8 ( skim to partner TGP )
Gallery #9 ( skim to partner TGP )
Gallery #10 ( random FHG etc )

< Column C >
REHEADS ( category title, best selling FHG featuring a redhead )
Thumbnail ( featuring a redhead, skim to a Partner TGP )
Gallery #1 ( 2nd best selling FHG featuring a redhead )
Gallery #2 ( 3rd best selling FHG etc )
Gallery #3 ( random FHG featuring a redhead )
Gallery #4 ( skim to partner TGP )
Gallery #5 ( random FHG etc )
Gallery #6 ( skim to partner TGP )
Gallery #7 ( random FHG etc )
Gallery #8 ( random FHG etc )
Gallery #9 ( skim to partner TGP )
Gallery #10 ( random FHG etc )

< Column D >
ect

Through trial and error, surfers will figure out that any thumb clicking results in reloading new TGPs. They will then attempt the text links and be rewarded with FHGs. Now that they are confident that they have figured what links lead to where, they'll eventually get skimmed again and have to start over from scratch on a new TGP.

Again, through trial and error, these surfers will figure out that the Category Title and Gallery #1,#2 & #3 are indeed linked to FHGs. They know that if they get bounced to a new TGP to avoid the thumbs and immediately explore the Category Title and Gallery #1,#2 & #3 ( 3 out of 4 of which are always going to be a bestseller ).

This is a system that will :
a) get more mileage out of traffic for the sake of traffic
b) dramatically reduce bandwidth by dispensing with an overload of image files
c) dramatically reduce time and resources spent towards creating thumbs and acquiring galleries
d) dramatically reduce the amount of free content available because fewer FHGs are required ( also translating into less cluttered Search Engines )
e) dramatically reduce the amount of surfers frustrated from opening galleries that have no relevance to the thumbs clicked upon

**Magnetron** · January 16th, 2012, 08:57 AM

Oh, and of course

f) more targeted clicking than the typical TGP

**Dred** · January 16th, 2012, 09:30 AM

My main problem is figuring out the 3 - 5 best-selling FHGs for each of my categories. How do you go about that?
I want to use a rotator script to run the site but nowadays their moreorless built for thumbs, not text.

**Magnetron** · January 16th, 2012, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Dred

My main problem is figuring out the 3 - 5 best-selling FHGs for each of my categories. How do you go about that?

In CCBill, you can look up the Reffering URL of old sales over the span of several years and find links to all the FHGs you made sales with.

I imagine one should be able to do something similar in NATS.

**Magnetron** · January 16th, 2012, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Dred

I want to use a rotator script to run the site but nowadays their moreorless built for thumbs, not text.

You can always create low KB images with just text against color that matches the background of your page.

**Dred** · January 16th, 2012, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by Magnetron

In CCBill, you can look up the Reffering URL of old sales over the span of several years and find links to all the FHGs you made sales with.

I imagine one should be able to do something similar in NATS.

You can...BUT, the TextGP I'm currently building is a new niche for me. No previous promotion or sales in this niche to look back upon unfortunately.

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