Thread: [LIST] 1-5 days Cookie Time CCBILL programs

Originally Posted by TMM_John

Am I reading/understanding correctly that CCBill affiliate program admins have the ability to disable IP based tracking?

I can understand allowing programs to determine their cookie length, but I'm at a loss as to what the point of allowing a program to completely disable a method of tracking would be? What would the benefit in doing so be to an affiliate program other than not tracking sales for an affiliate?

Maybe I am missing something?

Hi John. CCBill provides sponsors the tools and flexibility to run their programs inexpensively. Please don't forget that CCBill is not actually setting up the program parameters but rather just providing sponsors numerous account settings to choose from.

I am curious about cookie settings when using third party programs such as NATS and MPA. Admittedly I am not all that familiar with NATS or MPA, do they display cookie lengths, or send out such notifications?

Originally Posted by daizzy

btw Paul it sucks i have to change my ccbill pass each month with that new regulation

I am not aware of any new regulations honestly. I have just asked as well and we do not have any plans to modify the mandatory 60 day password change. Let me know if you have reason to believe our system is making you change it prior to the 60 days.

yeah. ok it's 60 days, but very annoying

Red Cash - 14 days
Panty Revenue - 14 days
Action Grils - 5 days
Angel Cash - 7 days
Alpha Sky Productions - 7 days

No such thing as a cookie that lives forever its either 1 day to 1 year there is no choose zero for unlimited type setting.

Originally Posted by JACOBKELL

So does that means sponsors which advertise forever cookie are liars?

In short yes because they were originally designed primarily as a method for extending sessions. Not only that but the browser or application may have limitations built in that would effectively prevent setting a cookie longer then X number of hours, days, weeks or even years. Generally 30 days is or was the average for many adult affiliate sites some will do up to a year but this is of course totally pointless in this day and age.

Writing Cookies

You can also set a cookie's date and time expiration. Expired cookies are deleted by the browser when a user visits the site that wrote the cookies. The expiration of a cookie should be set for as long as your application considers the cookie value to be valid. For a cookie to effectively never expire, you can set the expiration date to be 50 years from now.

Note

Users can clear the cookies on their computer at any time. Even if you store cookies with long expiration times, a user might decide to delete all cookies, wiping out any settings you might have stored in cookies.

If you do not set the cookie's expiration, the cookie is created but it is not stored on the user's hard disk. Instead, the cookie is maintained as part of the user's session information. When the user closes the browser, the cookie is discarded. A non-persistent cookie like this is useful for information that needs to be stored for only a short time or that for security reasons should not be written to disk on the client computer. For example, non-persistent cookies are useful if the user is working on a public computer, where you do not want to write the cookie to disk.

You can read more about cookies here ASP.NET Cookies Overview

also "Error auto fill attempts exceeded." sucks
i guess i get it after joining 10 ccbill programs

so it looks you decided to make it harder for me to list more ccbill programs at Signbucks Daily

daizzy, just FYI, that ronharris.com site uses its own link code which sets a 6 month cookie. I believe they only use the ccbill code & cookie when a user clicks to the join page.

Emo Profits - 30 days
Hard Brit Lads - 30 days
Skull Candy Media - 30 days
Krissy 4U - 14 days
Ghost Cash, Butterfly Bucks - 7 days

After I told GUNNER i disabled KickAssPays because their cookie is less than 7 days, I get this reply:

Originally Posted by GUNNER (over at KickAssPays)

Wow, I need to contact Signupbucksdaily guys, because they're reporting is wrong.

Kick Ass Pays is set to 30 days and has been, so I'll have to thank them for incorrectly reporting the cookie time.

Thanks for pointing that out.

So who's got it right? GUNNER (30 days) or SignBucksDaily (3 days)?

If CCBill made the cookie-length visible to affiliates (like split/no split and percentage payouts) it'd take the guesswork out of who to promote...that'd bring me back to CCBill. Seeing the cookie-length would immediately let me know who's trying to shaft me out of my traffic (especially those with 1-day cookies).

CCBill, please make the cookie-length visible. Until then, we'll have to resort to checking threads like this one or taking the time out to do the research ourselves. I'm betting most webmasters will resort to threads like this over doing it themselves. I disabled a shitload of sponsors because SignBucksDaily reported them as less than 7 days...obviously some of these could be wrong...as in GUNNER/KickAssPays' case.

Take the guesswork out CCBill, please make the cookie-length visible.

Originally Posted by Dred

After I told GUNNER i disabled KickAssPays because their cookie is less than 7 days, I get this reply:
So who's got it right? GUNNER (30 days) or SignBucksDaily (3 days)?

If CCBill made the cookie-length visible to affiliates (like split/no split and percentage payouts) it'd take the guesswork out of who to promote...that'd bring me back to CCBill. Seeing the cookie-length would immediately let me know who's trying to shaft me out of my traffic (especially those with 1-day cookies).

CCBill, please make the cookie-length visible. Until then, we'll have to resort to checking threads like this one or taking the time out to do the research ourselves. I'm betting most webmasters will resort to threads like this over doing it themselves. I disabled a shitload of sponsors because SignBucksDaily reported them as less than 7 days...obviously some of these could be wrong...as in GUNNER/KickAssPays' case.

Take the guesswork out CCBill, please make the cookie-length visible.

Well I see your point Dred and understand your frustration. I mean, there's no way CCBill is going to run in here to support our claim and verify that in fact we do have it set at 30 days. What am I supposed to do, make a video showing me opening the admin and zoom in on "30 day enabled" setting?

I could be a little upset with SignupbucksDaily for incorrectly reporting, but then again, how can anyone know for sure? I suppose as you said, it's CCBill's responsibility to take the guesswork out of the whole thing.

How many affiliates disable Kick Ass Pays because of the cookie issue and it wasn't even true? How much lost traffic and how many lost sales does that translate into?

...and yet CCBill gets upset when I tell clients they HAVE to get a merchant account if they truly want to be in control of their billing.

Originally Posted by GUNNER

I could be a little upset with SignupbucksDaily for incorrectly reporting, but then again, how can anyone know for sure? I suppose as you said, it's CCBill's responsibility to take the guesswork out of the whole thing.

They should show us, if they want to continue getting our traffic to the sponsors that use them. I care about my traffic too much to just fuckin' give it away. Just as other webmasters should.

Originally Posted by GUNNER

How many affiliates disable Kick Ass Pays because of the cookie issue and it wasn't even true? How much lost traffic and how many lost sales does that translate into?

alot, especially if webmasters checked this thread and checked out the list.

I'm pretty sure there are more than a few sponsors that lost traffic after this list showed up and outed them. Look at how many sponsors changed their cookie-length after this thread came up.

They wouldn't be making their cookies last longer if it didn't have/wasn't having some kind of affect right?