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    Its a shame when people not only cant come up with their own ideas but then have to steal the code for themselves.
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    I can't check that out, donīt have a gfy account.
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    Hmmmmm.. not really sure what to think about that.
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    Uhm I didnt see anything about stolen code. Not even the TP guys make that accusation.

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    Here is the post
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    Posted by "ipolic"

    First of all, I as developer of Trade Pulse together with my coding partners would like to say that we are very glad that JMBSOFT liked so much our script that they copied majority of it! Thnx guys we are really honored since that is one more proof we are always 2 steps infront from other scripts!

    Now to show off some original methods we used(inventions of my partner also from proton and progress tm scripts) and how JMBSOFT did it their way:

    Skim Schemes Original vs Copy:



    Trade Quality Countries vs Copy:



    I like innovative way of 3 outlists (our invention) a lot:



    We found many more "similarities" and you can preview them here:
    Index of /tptx

    and ofcourse you can digg much more of them looking at demo's of both scripts!

    Trade Pulse (original) demo here: Trade Script - TGP Script - Traffic Trades - TradePulse The Nr1 Trade Script!!!
    TradeX demo (copy) here: TradeX - Traffic Trading Script

    We are also happy that you use external user info feature (as we spoke over email) so at least we all together will have some profit from that(more quality traffic and again our invention)!

    Guys keep up the great work and please continue to be inspired by Trade Pulse, at least we are sure that your script will ROCK! Don't forget the backend (you need to get blazing fast speeds of script exec times as we did it).
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    I did not see any mention of JMB stealing anyone's code. TradePulse is making the accusations that the features they came up with were copied and the way things look.
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    Thanks for posting that CraK



    To other peeps. copied = taking = steal to me anyway.

    Maybe I read it wrong.
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    I noticed the similarities as well, but, TP guys can't honestly think they're the only ones on the planet to think of those options (though they may have been the first to implement them). First to market DOES NOT automatically make you the originator.

    If your super-idea wasn't patented then you should have expected it to be implemented on at least one competitors script. If you thought the idea was that fantabulous then you should've have copyrighted it so shit like that wouldn't happen. Right or wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dred View Post
    If your super-idea wasn't patented then you should have expected it to be implemented on at least one competitors script. If you thought the idea was that fantabulous then you should've have copyrighted it so shit like that wouldn't happen. Right or wrong?
    I think the term is patented... but I agree with the sentiment. TradeX is extremely similar... but welcome to the world of script development...

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    well i use TP on shitload of sites and i still love it, i must admit the the pricing structure of jmbsoft looks teasing, so from my experience jeremy is great coder as well, i really doubt he did stole any source code of TP and prolly he just asked the people what features they want, which is exactly what every coder would do if he thinks about a new product, and obviously due the big run on TP that time lots of people asked for the skim schemes, the country sorting and stuff like that,

    well i checked the demo, and imo it looks indeed very similar in terms of features to me, cant say about speed or whatsoever,

    my TX dislikes would be definatley that it doesnt run on IE

    well from what i see a TP update is just long overdue, the history stats still suck, and the GUI is not the nicest anyway, so i guess its update time soon
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    + i can understand that ivo is upset about that, but on the other hand they are the market leader as for i am aware of, and if you go for a new thing you should have at least the features of the currently best script on the market

    nevertheless all newly released trade script will have those features imo, ATX2 added the country codes as well and it simply just makes sense, and still while TP is proven script TX still had to prove that, which is a long run imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by nation-x View Post
    I think the term is patented... but I agree with the sentiment. TradeX is extremely similar... but welcome to the world of script development...
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    Every trade script currently available has copied Viper's basic idea for trading based on productivity/value II/qual or whatever you want to call it. The specific algorithms vary significantly of course. The shortcomings of trade scripts are pretty damn obvious to anyone who uses them for a while, so their tends to be alot of overlap when various programmers conjure up new features. I.E., my script was the first to market for auto-joining trades with "trusted networks", then TP came out with their somewhat similar version a couple months later. I first assumed that they were copying my idea, but they claimed it had been in development for months before mine was released - and I came up with my idea nearly half a year before that. Point being, we each reached the same conclusions independently. Me being first to market in no way diminishes their variation.

    It's not copying, it's a matter of people starting with similar foundations and working to solve the same problems. The results often end up being similar.

    Considering JMBSoft's reputation and extensive customer base, and their rock bottom pricing, TP's comments don't surprise me. If I was going to install a trade script other than my own, TradeX would be looking pretty damn good to me right now and you can't beat the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nation-x View Post
    you've got my curiousity, but not enough to track down my gfy password

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmateurFlix View Post
    you've got my curiousity, but not enough to track down my gfy password
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    Quote Originally Posted by above referenced gfy post
    The funniest part about this thread is that ipoli should have set up an affiliate account because he just sold more JMB scripts than would have been sold without this thread. There is a lesson to be learned here... you can be right and stupid or you can be right and smart. Advertising your competitor by starting drama threads is stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oil View Post
    i really doubt he did stole any source code of TP and prolly he just asked the people what features they want,
    I would agree with oil, JMBSoft has a suggestions area in the members area, and it has a lot of public suggestion's to do with TradeX.

    Quote Originally Posted by nation-x View Post
    Originally Posted by above referenced gfy post
    The funniest part about this thread is that ipoli should have set up an affiliate account because he just sold more JMB scripts than would have been sold without this thread. There is a lesson to be learned here... you can be right and stupid or you can be right and smart. Advertising your competitor by starting drama threads is stupid.
    Jeremy will be happy with the publicity.

    Quote Originally Posted by AmateurFlix View Post
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    It's not copying, it's a matter of people starting with similar foundations and working to solve the same problems. The results often end up being similar.

    Considering JMBSoft's reputation and extensive customer base, and their rock bottom pricing, TP's comments don't surprise me. If I was going to install a trade script other than my own, TradeX would be looking pretty damn good to me right now and you can't beat the price.
    I am not sure at this point about the copy part, AmateurFlix puts a good point and Jeremy did ask for his members for suggestions before he released TradeX.

    Also pricing for TradeX is very good, $59 single license and the $375 for an unlimited domain license, will sell a few.
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    Both are created for the same/similar end result using the same programming languages. There's a finite way to get from A to B using the same languages. Jeremy rocks, ultra clean coding and ultra support.

    He's not a thief, he doesn't need to be.

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