Thread: Guess the program these scammers run

Originally Posted by Viper

You should clearly know if you've done as much business with them as it appears you have.. so is it?

It has been admitted over at GFY, though the caveat is he denies that he's the owner.

This civil suit filed over 10 years ago was settled 100% withoutb any admission of wrongdoing, period.

I am not the owner of I$ . I have been its face here on GFY and have ran the production... I have never dealt with banking, cross sales or customer service-
If anybody has any proof of I$ doing anything wrong email me and if proved I will hand in my letter of resignation. Period... As the people thatv truly know me know my intentions are 100% honest...

As per replying to threads this is what happens when you have a compertitor that doesnot do cross sales and is envious of our growth. Donnie of Duke Dollars when we were semi friends 3'4 years ago I entrusted you with this information and the pain I went through in the past. Am I laundering the confidential info you told me about Red and you having problems? No I am not gonna air my or yours on the boards, thats not my style.

Lets face it we started to fight and never get along since 12-2005

For a guy who complains to review sites that Inpass has higher scores than adult doorway sites its obvvious what your intentions are. Donnie if there is anything yiou need to discuss with me hit me up on email or ICQ otherwise I have nothing else to say, except we now have CCBill ready so we have the same non cross sales available as duke dollars but its ultimately up to the affiliate.-

Guys in closing this is why replying to threads is many times useless.

I don't get the "100% without any admission of wrongdoing" with a fine that large, though. Perhaps I'm missing something.

Originally Posted by shunga

I don't get the "100% without any admission of wrongdoing" with a fine that large, though. Perhaps I'm missing something.

Me neither -- so they paid out over $1.3mil without being guilty?

Originally Posted by QuickBuck

I have lots of respect for people in the business who simply acknowledge that they are working in the least respected business on the planet... people who get on their high horse about morality, judge me and my actions (or rather what they read on a message board so it must be true), but then turn around and sell something that most of the world thinks is immoral... baaah.

OK, let me try putting this differently so even you understand it. You = in this industry for money. Me = in this industry for money. You = fuck the surfers and thus cause MY potential customers to shy away from buying from me, due to being fucked by you. Me = I tell you to eat shit and die.

Easy enough for you to grasp? No need for moratoriums, this is all about business.

Originally Posted by CraK

Me neither -- so they paid out over $1.3mil without being guilty?

That happenes every day. People pay money to get rid of headaches. For some people it is not that much money, obviously.

Originally Posted by faxxaff

That happenes every day. People pay money to get rid of headaches. For some people it is not that much money, obviously.

Problem is, they also got banned from having anything to do with credit card processing and adjacent activities. You don't agree to stop with whatever you're doing, if you're not guilty, AND pay a fine, just to see the headache go away.

Originally Posted by DamageX

Problem is, they also got banned from having anything to do with credit card processing and adjacent activities. You don't agree to stop with whatever you're doing, if you're not guilty, AND pay a fine, just to see the headache go away.

I don't oppose your point of view, I am just saying settlements and fines are an easy way out of trouble. For innocent people as well as for guilty. It's a problem of Western legislation as lawyers make 50% more money with settlements than with proper results. It's a pitty, but that's the way the law is :-(

I think this passage is worth quoting:

On March 25, 1998, United States District Judge Alfred J. Lechner, Jr., of Newark, New Jersey, issued detailed findings of facts and conclusions of law in which he concluded that the FTC and State of New Jersey were likely to succeed in proving that NCMG, Buzzetti, and Ferguson had violated the law. He granted the request of the FTC and New Jersey for a preliminary injunction, froze the defendants' assets, and appointed a receiver to take over the company.

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Originally Posted by faxxaff

I don't oppose your point of view, I am just saying settlements and fines are an easy way out of trouble. For innocent people as well as for guilty. It's a problem of Western legislation as lawyers make 50&#37; more money with settlements than with proper results. It's a pitty, but that's the way the law is :-(

not commenting on this thread topic specifically, however faxxaff is unfortunately correct. from an economic POV it sometimes makes more sense for a company/person to buy their way out of the judicial system rather than to continue to pay to fight an unfounded accusation.

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

not commenting on this thread topic specifically, however faxxaff is unfortunately correct. from an economic POV it often makes more sense for a company/person to buy their way out of the judicial system rather than to continue to pay to fight an unfounded accusation.

I would change often to sometimes before agreeing.

Originally Posted by DamageX

I would change often to sometimes before agreeing.

since the edit button was still available, I changed it. you're right, I was being overly cynical.

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

not commenting on this thread topic specifically, however faxxaff is unfortunately correct. from an economic POV it sometimes makes more sense for a company/person to buy their way out of the judicial system rather than to continue to pay to fight an unfounded accusation.

But also when finances are involved it can make sense to impose a fine and have funds reimbursed rather than having the expense of a trial and sending people to prison with those defrauded not having monies returned.

Same name, same state, same business partner... But different people... Hahahahaha...

Glenn settled the credit repair lawsuit without admitting any wrong doing over 10 years ago. Incredible Dollars has never done anything illegal or against any rules of Visa, Mastercard or Discover Card.

Jim

Originally Posted by jimb

Glenn settled the credit repair lawsuit without admitting any wrong doing over 10 years ago. Incredible Dollars has never done anything illegal or against any rules of Visa, Mastercard or Discover Card.

Jim

Since we have you here, who owns IncredibleDollars?

Originally Posted by DamageX

Since we have you here, who owns IncredibleDollars?

Perlous LTD, a Cyprus Corporation owns Incredible Dollars.

Jim

Originally Posted by jimb

Perlous LTD, a Cyprus Corporation owns Incredible Dollars.

Jim

Originally Posted by jimb

Glenn settled the credit repair lawsuit without admitting any wrong doing over 10 years ago.

If you admit to it, you can't really settle..

Originally Posted by jimb

Incredible Dollars has never done anything illegal or against any rules of Visa, Mastercard or Discover Card.

Never? I guess you have 'never' read any of the review sites comments or complaint boards. Odd how only the scam companies are listed, but not the honest ones.

Originally Posted by jimb

Perlous LTD, a Cyprus Corporation owns Incredible Dollars.

Well of course.. You can't roll merchant accounts on VISA U.S. And you really can't get U.S. merchant accounts after you had to 'settle' on other issues.

Originally Posted by jimb

Perlous LTD, a Cyprus Corporation owns Incredible Dollars.

Jim

Who's the CEO,CFO,COO?

Originally Posted by JD

Who's the CEO,CFO,COO?

That's rhetorical, right? I mean, come on, here's a bunch of guys with a record of credit card fraud, setting up shop in an offshore jurisdiction and moving abroad to dodge the FTC and you're asking nosy questions like that?