Thread: ATX vs Tradepulse

Originally Posted by cybermike

so no love for arrow anymore?

can´t say that, the GUI of ATX is still way way ahead of TP, and some of the new features of ATX2 are kickass as well, but since i am a lazy guy TP is just so fucking sweet, setting up a TP is a matter of seconds

TP all the way...

totally unbiased +1 for Draupnir here

Im never ever ever buying another trade script I cannot buy and move around from server to server with ease -
I like TP license methods they are easy
I like its interface much easier to use and understand without tons of bulky features that we dont need.
I like its price
I like TP support I get answers to questions that make sense = translation answers I want to hear.
I also like the auto refresh feature I leave all my interfaces open and just tab thru each day whenever the mood strikes me and everythings fresh in my face up to the minute data.

The only script I have been using in the last 3 years is arrow trader, but after reading this topic I think I'm gonna give TP a try.

Sounds promising

Which one uses more hosting resources ? Probably AT3 coz cron?

Hmm I'm running trade pulse now for a few hours but I'm suprised about the weird outlist so far.

I know the script needs some time to judge which trade it should return to but so far it seems the scripts just sends random out traffic to each trade...

But I guess I will have to leave the script running some more time first

Originally Posted by FrozenJag

Well yes of course its gonna send out random to each trade. It has ZERO information to go off of.

If you want to give your known good trades some love then set some force to give TP some info that the trade needs sent too. After 24 hours TP will have gathered some decent info by then.

Personally I just let it figure it out cause sometimes you can have some trades that were down low before all of a sudden become great trades but its up to you. Depends how patient you are.

Yeah you're right, I guess it needs at least 24 hours to gather enough information.

But I thought it would allready have some usefull info after like 5 hours or something...

Originally Posted by hribar81

Which one uses more hosting resources ? Probably AT3 coz cron?

AT3 and TP alike must still process their logs, data structures, main statistics, link report, history and everything else. I believe they both execute it each minute, the only difference is that at3 data processing is being triggered by the crontab, while tp's data processing is being triggered by "in.php" when the first surfer in that single minute visits your page. I don't guarantee that all the details above are 100% correct (because i didn't waste too much time analysing that), but basically that is how it works. Thinking that one consumes less resources than the other because of the cron is just absurd.

Our Trade Expert trade script uses crons as well and i can tell you that it can be optimized much further than anything else on the market. We've spent months on developing a system that allows you to adjust the whole database to your own requirements. Trade scripts nowdays consume most resources on reading large amount of data from the HDD (every X mins). Let's take a look at the example how you can optimize TE to read less data and less frequenetly from the HDD. Example: You have 10 huge sites on your web server and you're starting to experience server load problems, you can shrink the whole database for factor 2 to 60. E.g. you can set "process database" parameter to every 10 minutes, which will shrink the whole database for 10 times. Not only that database will be processed every 10 mins, it will have to read 10x less data from the HDD and that is a HUGE advantage.

Data is now processed every 10 mins, which is great but not enough. With a cron balance parameter we can simply set TE to process data on each of those 10 huge sites at a different minute (sitea.com: xx:00, siteb.com xx:01, sitec.com xx:02 and so on). This way we won't overload our server at alll. Additionally we can set cron delays for each site. This way cron doesn't need to get executed right at the beginning of a minute when also crons from some other scripts are being processed. There are several more parameters helping you reduce load on your server drastically.

You must not forget about logs as well. On a huge site 1440 minutes (1 day - default) of referrer and cheat logs can accumulate to e.g. 150 MB. Reading 150 MB on 10 scripts each minute will cause server load issues. In TE you can set for how long (in minutes) you would like to keep referrer logs, country logs, cheat logs, ip tracker logs, spider logs, ping logs etc. On an already overloaded server it makes sense to reduce log size. You can simply set TE to keep referrer logs (and other logs) for only e.g. 720 minutes. It is also possible to fully disable some of the logs which you might not need by setting minutes to 0.

The only difference between processing data with crons or that other technique is that some users might feel more comfortable with "cronless" solution, because they don't need to add them or they are afraid of them because they are not sure how to add them, but on the other hand our installer adds crons automatically, so there is no hassle with it at all.

Some of you might find my post an advertisment for TE, but i had to clear up this non sense about crons with a proper example of how some of our biggest customers optimize their web sites. Don't get fooled.

regards,
Jim

Originally Posted by Trade Expert

The only difference between processing data with crons or that other technique is that some users might feel more comfortable with "cronless" solution...

There is another difference between the two techniques. Scripts which use cron process data in the background, while scripts which do not use crons process data while a visitor is waiting for the page to load. So long as the processes run quickly, this should not be a problem, however a script lacking crons might cause some users to experience significant delays while waiting for the page to load. My script was initially "cronless", however after doing some testing, I determined that it was better to have cron than to not use it.

Originally Posted by BabeHunter

what about EPT?

I was just going to ask that myself.. my question was going to be EPT -VS- TP.

has any one switched from EPT to TP? I was thinking about buying a few copies of TP, but I don't want to make TP go out of business. lol

tbh i used pretty much every trade cript out there the only ones that stuck in my network are Epowertrader and two copies of tp of which one is currently in use, for me ept does the best job, i guess it all comes down to what one is used to.

Also remember its only a tool you use, imho it still needs a bit of experience ot make sites grow, no script will magicly grow just any site out there.

Originally Posted by boneless

no script will magicly grow just any site out there.

Dang

Originally Posted by cybermike

For those of you who still use ATX what are some good settings to use?

Aheib got a very very good settings guide on his site, highly recommended to read, for every tgp / mgp trader

I have been trying TradePulse for the last 2 days and I was not really happy about the way it returned.

It sometimes returned like 500 uniques to a trade that only sent 50 uniques with pretty low prod.

Some of the bigger trades decreased pretty quick, actually it looked like TP was sending about the same traffic to each trade on average.

But maybe something was wrong on my side, I used the TP default settings

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