Thread: How Cain Fared as Godfather CEO

“I doubt [Pillsbury] put much value in Godfather’s,” Campbell said. “The reality of it was by the time Herman bought it, it was nothing like what it had been” at its peak.

Cain would never build God*******father’s into the “great ship in that great big sea of restaurants” that he had once spoken about so passionately.

Years after the buyout, Cain acknowledged in an interview with the trade publication National Restaurant News that Godfather’s continued to operate in a “surviving” rather than “thriving” mode, but he added, “Give me boring and profitability any day, rather than losing money and excitement.”

How Cain Fared as Godfather CEO

Originally Posted by toker

“Give me boring and profitability any day, rather than losing money and excitement.”

exact opposite of Obama

I never found Obama to be all that exciting really and rarely even bother to watch his TV appearances. To me Bush was far more exciting to watch and see what kind of stupid things he would make headlines for each week. I see Obama makes headlines for actually trying to make progress be it good or bad. With Bush it was mostly disrespect he got such as someone throwing shoes at him or media questioning if he was even human. As it turns out he was human and a weak cowardly one at that who basically allowed his VP to do whatever he wanted at the expense of we the American people.

Shock and Awe however went over real well as did Bush's Middle East occupation and his failed quest to get Bin Laden. Just as history will repeat itself when we get involved in the bullshit between Iran and Israel. All thanks to a few conservative shit stirring Republicunts who feel the need to fulfill prophecy and save the church from short term embarrassment which at some point will be inevitable.

I honestly fear for this country if any of the Evangelical Crusaders did happen to win the next presidency. If you think Obama is a bad president you have not seen anything until you see a Jesus freak send us down the path of thermonuclear war. The church keeps hinting that the end is near and most brain dead believers share in this belief that Jesus will return soon to protect the born again stupids at the time of Armageddon. I'd say most Conservatives are as sick in the brain as the Jihadists who blow themselves up in the name of Allah.

Most believers in the rapture suggest that it will happen just before the expected seven-year Tribulation -- a time of great suffering, instability, the devastating War of Armageddon, and the largest genocide that the world has ever seen. Some suggest that it will happen just after the Tribulation when Jesus finally returns to Earth.

The Rapture: Other Bible verses; When will it happen

Btw it seems the smart people within the Republican party have given up any hope of beating Obama.

“Mitt Romney is going to be the Republican nominee. And his general election campaign will be an utter disaster for conservatives as he takes the GOP down with him and burns up what it means to be a conservative in the process,” Erickson wrote.

Herman Cain, Erickson wrote, has no shot, because female voters will desert him in the face of the sexual misconduct charges that are eclipsing his campaign.

“He’s down at least 10 points with women in Iowa. He’s falling even further and doesn’t even realize it,” Erickson said. “He’s largely been emboldened by a conservative media that is so used to standing by its men that too few are telling Herman that he is now at the point where he must actually sit and answer questions whether he wants to or not and whether he feels maligned or not and whether I think he should have to or not.”

Similarly, he said, Newt Gingrich’s tangled marital history (three wives) dooms him with the same voting bloc. Rick Perry, he suggested, won’t be able to recover from his record on immigration.

Erickson's blistering critique fell along the same line of attack that Obama’s reelection campaign has adopted: that Romney is inauthentic, that he lacks a “core,” a consistent set of beliefs.

Conservative pundit rips Romney, predicts GOP loss - latimes.com

elections are a year away. speculation regarding current candidates is essentially meaningless.

I hope we don't end up with Romney, he's nearly indistinguishable from Obama and believes in a nanny state government all of which might be appealling to alot of liberals who are disappointed with Obama. His choice of religion is spit in the face to the age of reason, as it was conjured up after that time, which to me seems a fundamental rejection of modern western civilization; normally I don't really care about a candidate's religion in any way however when they're from a group which is known to be very politically active then it's a bit disingenuous for a voter to separate the two activities when the ones they're voting upon do not.

I think you underestimate what the LDS is about which is far different then your typical network of fake Christian profiteers. It's mainly the Southern Baptist Bumpkins and the Faith Healing Sickos who tend to contribute very little to society and are mostly criminals and con's. Most tend to turn to church for profit and or in hopes of not getting ass raped or stabbed inside a prison cell. You will notice just about every man who gets raped in prison seems to come out with a tattoo of Jesus which im guessing is a sign of having a very holy bung hole.

In fact many pastors become ordained and use their connection to the Church for the purpose of investing large sums of donations while being exempt from tax. They can then start up a small fake church where they travel and hook up with bigger churches that lend them greater validity. So don't kid yourself about the Religion bit as most Christian followers themselves often go to church on Sunday to pray and drink with the devil the rest of the week. As long as they can find a way to justify it such as blaming "demons" all is forgiven in the eyes of the Lord Jesus Christ.

I have enough family who use the Christian act when it best suits them like when they want something for nothing or expect special treatment. I also visited the Minestry of Benny Hinn to see the fake miracles first hand but saw nothing but deceit and mistruth. Thousands of suckers emptying their wallets and literally worshipping a another man for performing on stage which according to the Bible only God is to be worshipped.


Course i'm sure you go to Church each Sunday and pray while contemplating the next update your pornographic websites featuring sin and fornication..

toker, what does any of that have to do with my supposed underestimation of the LDS, which in itself seems a rather strange take on what I posted above?

Your the one saying someone is a bad candidate for President simply based on his personal faith which i;ve never once heard him talk about.

I lived in Utah for almost a year surrounded by Mormons who never once tried to convert me. Yet even my own father has tried to get me "saved" knowing full well i want no part of that crap. I see the Conservative Baptist Regime as a far greater threat then Mormons. We always hear these Tea Party candidates like Bachmann toss up her religious views trying to impose them on everyone else including Jews, Muslims, Atheists and what have you. But what we don't see is the LDS Church trying to shove itself down our throats through Romney or using the Presidential debates to create a war over personal faith.

You say the Mormons are "politically active" but then how can you ignore Palin, Perry, Bachmann and Cain openly using the electoral platform to bring Religious views into Politics?

What's good for the Goose is good for the Gander.

As for the LDS they are not the cult that Evangelists claim considering they also claim the Catholic faith is a cult. Yet the facts show most if not all Christian beliefs stem from the very same Celtic pagan roots . For one thing if Mormons knock on my door and offer to share scripture they never beg for money. But walk into any of the Churches run by the so called true Christian faiths and there you will surely see the collection plate being passed around. I often see pastors on TV (i'm an open minded person) claim that the more people give to God (meaning themselves) and his anointed the more they will be blessed in return.

Half my family being devout Christians *lord help them* knows the bible from front to back and yet can't grasp the fact that the bible is not literal. Which is why it's easy for the Church to mislead sheep into believing whatever they want them to believe because most don't understand symbolic meanings within scripture. Also by making it hard to inturpet for the average person it forces them to seek someone from the Church for guidance which most often in return generates WEALTH.

When your child dies you want to believe they will be with God and many will argue they are saved simply because of Baptisim which is faleshood. The church makes things up because it's comforting to it's followers and helps people to better accept the loss of a loved one and such. It's all one big fucking ponzi sceme designed to make some very wealthy and powerful people even more rich and powerful through pure religious persuasion.

I really can't imagine any of the republican candidates getting elected except for
Romney. Simply because you need to appeal to the independent moderates to win still. So while the more hardline religious conservatives may be loved and win a nomination, then they need to still win over enough of the rest of the country
Or maybe not because of the stupid electoral college

Only exceptions I can think of is maybe Ron Paul or possibly Newt (but I don't know much about his positions but he was sane enough to get elected before)

toker, open your eyes. There are ads for the LDS all over the place, from television to the internet to magazines, they have had a massive media campaign for as long as I can remember seeking new converts. the degree to which they do this is atypical of established religions.

they are very politically motivated as a group, remember their little hate campaign in california over prop 8? that is precisely the sort of thing which I find disturbing about these people, not that that issue affected me directly, but they were using the influence of their organization to attempt to control the behavior of people who had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with them, who wanted to do something which wouldn't affect them in any way. essentially, it's the behaviour of a bully.

While I probably haven't brought it up on this forum, I do not ignore that other candidates bring their religion into politics. The question, for me, is more of to what degree do they do so, and is it more for the purpose of broadening voter support or for inflicting their beliefs upon others.

For that matter I hesitate to even consider the LDS a "religion" in the proper sense. I put it more on the level of Scientology. It's something ridiculous for which there is no basis in long standing tradition, because it's new. Someone just dreamt up a nonsensical story in historically recent times which only someone very gullible could believe if they chose to actively ignore reason and logic.

If someone wants to denigrate themselves to that level, that's their choice. When said group decides to become politically active and force their wacky nonsense upon others, that's when I have a problem with it.

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

they are very politically motivated as a group, remember their little hate campaign in california over prop 8? that is precisely the sort of thing which I find disturbing about these people, not that that issue affected me directly, but they were using the influence of their organization to attempt to control the behavior of people who had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with them, who wanted to do something which wouldn't affect them in any way. essentially, it's the behaviour of a bully.

What about the Evangelical side pushing a political agenda against abortions and what was it last year.. stem cells?

Religion is no longer just about God and Worship it's political and most Churches want to spread their faith upon others. I hear on Christian TV how millions of Jews (within Israel at that) are converting to Christianity because they have learned that Judaism is a lie and they want to be saved yada yada. I have to scratch my head and wonder if the people watching these shows really believe that load of crap. Then they bring ONE guy out to talk about himself converting and how so many others are converting and it sounds real convincing to someone who really wants to believe.

Now why do you think the Evangelists or the Southern Baptists might want to convert God's chosen people?

Well lets see Jews probably control like 2/3 of the worlds money and everyone knows Jews give to their temple as Christians do to the Church and money is power. The bigger the Church the more money it brings in and the more power it has. I somewhat understood what Christianity was about when it was little places of Worship spread around here and there. But these Mega Churches with 50-100k people in them are nothing but Brain Washing sessions for the masses. They don;t just preach as there is a ton of political shit being stirred in these places and you know this as well as i do. Not to mention we now have Churches on every corner sitting on huge parcels of valuable land which will one day be sold for big profit.

As an open minded person i've been to all kinds of places and i tolerate all religion equally until it starts to impose on my views. You mention Prop 8 which had lots of support from Catholics and im Catholic but non practicing. Well the Evangelism roots once again stem from Catholicism which stemmed from Druidism. Halloween in fact comes from the Celtic festival of Samhain and lets face it millions of Christians enjoy and celebrate while others believe it to be the devils birthday or some bullshit.

Don't get me wrong just a few weeks ago i gave a ton of food to a local Baptist Church that works with Second Harvest. That particular Church is small and it's primary focus is helping the poor unlike many others that do nothing of the sort. In fact many of the big Churches you see on TV and such actually have strict dress codes. They would never allow a smelly homeless person inside or even on the Church grounds. And they have security to keep these people along with most of the poor out because the poor people don't have money to contribute to the pastors new Mercedes fund.

I am fascinated by the history of religion and have watched numerous documentaries and done lots of reading on all of them but not so much on scripture. To me the history of why religion are created is far more fascinating then being brain washed into doing what someone tells me or writes in a book. I have concluded that all religious faiths are about money and or power so we really have no need for any form of religious influence inside the white house period.

I don't see evangelicals any different then mormons, especially when it comes to politics. If anything I'd take mormons over evangelicals because they are less accepted into society so they would have to push it less.

Its just fucking whacko how much pull religion has in politics in the US when its all just a bunch of made up crap, some people just made it up earlier then others

Originally Posted by toker

What about the Evangelical side pushing a political agenda against abortions and what was it last year.. stem cells?

So pick the devil you know or a whole new bag of unpredictability.

Originally Posted by toker

As an open minded person i've been to all kinds of places and i tolerate all religion equally until it starts to impose on my views.

I take pretty much the same approach, however I draw a clear distinction between religions which have been practiced for many centuries as opposed to baseless practices people simply made up recently. Western civilization enjoyed a renaissance during the Age of Enlightenment and I value and appreciate that culture. Those who would deny that culture can never hope to represent me in a political situation. Denying the age of reason is seeking a return to ignorance, to dogmatic practices, it is to devalue the very essence of humanity. I see no reason to tolerate that.

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

elections are a year away. speculation regarding current candidates is essentially meaningless.

Out of all the potential candidates available, Republicans have managed to assemble a handful of circus freaks like never seen before ( Romney being the most normal of the entire batch ).

Speculation isn't necessary to figure the outcome of this one.

You're not taking into account who they're running against. If they had anyone halfway decent the next election should be an easy win.

Obama is nowhere near as dysfunctional as his Republican oppostion.

Lots of Obama's problems are just the economy, something you can only do so much about. It'd be shitty either way, these things take time to work out

Well, when you run a campaign insisting that all is doom and gloom and that you're the savior, and people are stupid enough to buy into it, that kind of aggravates an already bad consumer sentiment. When your campaign consists of a million wacky promises of government intervention into every aspect of business, that creates a sense of uncertainty which rationally leads to holding no confidence in investing in such an unpredictable environment. When you have no idea what the tax situation is going to be, you hold on to what money you have instead of investing it in new businesses. When you upend a large portion of the economy via health insurance reforms and realize it will only be settled years in advance in the judiciary, that destroys confidence. When you spend and spend and spend some more which will inevitably lead to higher taxes during your term or the next guy's term, that destroys investor confidence. When you see your competition getting favorable treatment based upon their political donations to a degree never before witnessed, that destroys investor confidence. Then there's the GM & Chrysler bailouts, etc, etc. It just goes on and on.

If Obama hadn't acted like a complete imbecile in every way outlined above, it'd be a shitty situation, sure. But it almost certainly wouldn't be this bad. No president or politician is ever really in a place to help the economy, they can only stand in the way of progress and cause problems, and that is what they've been doing.

Originally Posted by arock

I really can't imagine any of the republican candidates getting elected except for
Romney. Simply because you need to appeal to the independent moderates to win still. So while the more hardline religious conservatives may be loved and win a nomination, then they need to still win over enough of the rest of the country
Or maybe not because of the stupid electoral college

Only exceptions I can think of is maybe Ron Paul or possibly Newt (but I don't know much about his positions but he was sane enough to get elected before)

There's a real lack of centrists or true conservatives. Not just among the candidates but sadly the people as well. Everyone seems to be so radical. Perhaps Romney is a little bit less so when compared to most of his competition.