Thread: Euro Collapse

The Brits own and control all of Europe's wealth anyway.

I think it's part of a huge plan where they suck the world dry before they begin culling the heard.

Originally Posted by NobleSavage

How do you figure? German and France both have a larger economy than England.

Who do you think has more power President Obama or the Pope?

You are not looking at the bigger picture where size of ones economic penis is virtually meaningless. England controls the majority of the worlds wealth (money travels to and fro) and therefore is deeply rooted in damn near everything around it. It's one of the most secure countries on earth not because the crown wants to protect the people. But rather the crown wants to protect itself from the people who might one day put a boot in the queens ass.

Well, London is now regarded as the financial center of the world, not New York city. However the mere fact that a lot of transactions take place somewhere does not imply that the government of that area has any significant control over that wealth.

Originally Posted by NobleSavage

No, I don't think they do. Maybe 200 years ago they did, but now they are just a sick old country doing good to take care of themselves. If they controlled the majority of the world's wealth then it would be reflected in their GDP and hence the size of their economy.

Here is a long history lesson so get to reading.

Much of the Brittan's true wealth is hidden and most people could only dream of having almost total control over a never ending stream of money and power. Imagine owning your dream car, never having to pay a dime for it and having everyone around you maintain it just so you can pimp it.

Some argue that the rise of free trade merely reflected Britain's economic position and was unconnected with any true philosophical conviction. Despite the earlier loss of 13 of Britain's North American colonies, the final defeat in Europe of Napoleonic France in 1815 left Britain the most successful international power. While the Industrial Revolution at home gave Britain an unrivaled economic leadership, the Royal Navy dominated the seas. The distraction of rival powers by European matters enabled Britain to pursue a phase of expansion of its economic and political influence through "informal empire" underpinned by free trade and strategic pre-eminence.

Between the Congress of Vienna of 1815 and the Franco-Prussian War of 1870, Britain was the world's sole industrialized power, with over 30 percent of the global industrial output in 1870. As the "workshop of the world," Britain could produce finished manufactures so efficiently and cheaply that they could undersell comparable locally produced goods in foreign markets. Given stable political conditions in particular overseas markets, Britain could prosper through free trade alone without having to resort to formal rule. The Americas in particular (especially in Argentina and the United States) were seen as being well under the informal British trade empire due to Britain's enforcement of the Monroe Doctrine, keeping other European nations from establishing formal rule in the area. However, free trade appears to have become imperial policy, since Britain found it convenient in many parts of the world to engage in trade and to negotiate trading rights without formally acquiring sovereignty, as in China, Iran, and the Gulf States. This went hand-in-hand with the belief that Britain now had a duty to police the world—that is, to protect trade. The term Pax Britannica was later used to describe this period, drawing an obvious parallel with the Pax Romana. Behind this term lies the idea that this type of imperial system benefits the ruled as well as the rulers.

British Empire - New World Encyclopedia


The Queen has no power these days? Sure. Part of the scam is to encourage people to believe that she has no power while giving her amazing powers should the need arise for emergency action by the Brotherhood.

The Queen has massive investments in America and many of these relate to the founding of the Virginia Company under James I and Sir Francis Bacon which carved up those lands from the very start. The British Crown still owns America (possibly on behalf of the Vatican) and, with the London-based Brotherhood, the Queen enjoys an amazing income from the raw materials and other profits generated by the United States (the Virginia Company).

In 1966 two US congressmen described in the congressional record how the Queen owned one of the world’s largest plantations in Scott, Mississippi, close to the Arkansas border, called the Delta and Pine Land Company. It was worth even at that time some $44.5 million and yet it paid its hundreds of black labourers a pittance. Note the name, too. Delta (the triangle or pyramid) is a major symbol which is why the Elite US Military unit is called Delta Force.

The pornography collection in the Library of Congress is known as the Delta Collection and the Delta, or Triad, is featured in the logos of hundreds of American businesses, including Delta Airlines. Not by coincidence Delta is also the symbol of Royal Arch Freemasonry. This is where the name of the Chinese organized crime operation, the Triads (triangle), comes from and the Elite grouping called the Trilateral Commission. When Adnan Khashoggi, the notorious global arms dealer, opened an American branch of his operation he called it Triad America. Khashoggi, a relative of the Fayeds, is an associate of George Bush, who is a close friend of Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip.

From 1968 the Queen’s Delta and Pine company attracted US government subsidies of $1.5 million. Senator McIntyre said in Congress on April 16th 1970 that the government had “Paid the Queen $120,000 for not planting cotton on farmland she owns in Mississippi” 23 The New Yorker Magazine also reported that the Queen is the biggest owner of slum property in New York City and her holdings include the theatre district, 42nd Street.24

It is reckoned that between 3,000 and 5,000 families own and control the world economy, but the number of people at the core of that control is far, far fewer: a relative handful. The Windsors are definitely among or very close to that inner circle Elite. This Brotherhood cartel controls every aspect of the global economic network, the banks, insurance companies, raw materials, transportation, factories, finished products, major retail groups (and by market rigging all the rest), the stock and material markets, governments, media, intelligence agencies and so on.

This is coordinated through the secret societies and one of their most important vehicles is the City of London-House of Windsor operation called the Club of the Isles. It was named after King Edward VII, Queen Victoria’s son, who was the first to carry the title Prince of the Isles. The title is held today by Prince Charles. Edward was heavily involved with Black Nobility barons of the Square Mile London financial district and helped them to engineer the Crimean War, the Russia-Japan War, the preparations for the First World War and the Opium Wars with China.

Through the central organization of the Club of the Isles comes the fantastic web of interlocking directorships which hold apparently independent’ companies in a network of common control and common agenda. Some of this web include:

The Bank of England
Anglo-American Corp of South Africa
Rio Tinto
Minorco Minerals and Resources Corp
De Beers Consolidated Mines and De Beers Centenary AG
N.M. Rothchild Bank
Barclays Bank
Lloyds Bank
Lloyds Insurance Market
Midland Bank
National Westminster Bank
Barings Bank
Schroders Bank
Standard Chartered Bank
Hambros Bank
S. G. Warburg
Toronto Dominion Bank
Johnson Matthey
Klienwort Benson Group
Lazard Brothers
Lonrho
J. P. Morgan and Co
Morgan Grenfell Group
British Petroleum
Shell and Royal Dutch Petroleum
Cadbury-Schweppes
BAT Industries
Assicurazioni Generali SpA, (Venice) Italy
Courtaulds
General Electric
Cazeenove and Co
Grand Metropolitan
Hanson plc
HSBS Holdings (Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank)
Imperial Chemical Industries
Inchscape plc
Inco Ltd
ING Group
Jardine Matheson
Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co (P & 0)
Pilkington Glass
Reuters Holdings
Glaxo Wellcome
SmithKline Beecham
Unilever and Unilever NV
Vickers plc

And that is just a few of them! Each of these corporations have staggering lists of subsidiaries going on for page after page. Lonrho alone at the time of writing has 640 subsidiaries.

These London-based operations connect with those in other developed and developing countries giving the Black Nobility-Windsor cartels control over world banking and mineral, energy and food production. One of the Black Nobility companies in the United States is Archer Daniels Midland, headed by the Bilderberger, Dwayne Andreas, one of the main financial backers of the deeply corrupt US politician, Bob Dole, who so meekly ‘opposed’ the Brotherhood choice, Bill Clinton, in the 1996 presidential election.

The Black Nobility has made the City of London the world financial centre since its arrival en masse with William of Orange. Today this centre is home to over a quarter of the world’s foreign exchange turnover and the London Stock Exchange lists more foreign companies than any other. Ninety per cent of cross-exchange trading in Europe is handled by the City and it is the world’s biggest issuer of Eurobonds.

The Biggest Secret - Chapter 18

In 1871, three years after the illegal ratification of the 14th Amendment, the government defaulted on its war debts, forcing America into bankruptcy.[12] What resulted is considered the death blow to the united States for America.[13] On February 21st, England claimed what was theirs, according to international law, and incorporated the ten mile square that is Washington D.C.[14] England also incorporated the American Constitution and names for its new corporation, such as THE UNITED STATES, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, U.S., and USA, as well as other titles, as declared in the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871.[15] A point of interest in these copyrighted names is the implementation of the article “THE.” Before this time, America was a union of “united States,” not a union of “the united States.” The article “the” doesn’t exist when referring to other countries, i.e. Canada and Britain aren’t referred to as “the Canada” or “the Britain.” The British-controlled Corporation, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, exclusively uses the article “the” in its name, which is distinct from the “united States” or the “United States.” One other immense change to America simultaneously occurred: being a bankrupt nation, the united States retained only the power to settle civil disputes, not criminal matters, allowing room for the illusion that only Britain’s private, ever-changing laws appertain to America’s criminal disputes. British law literally attempted to fill the gap created by the bankruptcy without anyone knowing, making it appear that everything was going just as usual. Since this point in history, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA has been governed entirely by foreign, private, corporate law and Washington, D.C. has been under British control.

One of the conditions when Britain took over Washington D.C. during its 1871 bankruptcy was that Britain would bail it out of its debt for a while, but not permanently. In 1909 this bailout ended and economic default again returned. America went back to Britain for an extension; and Britain agreed for a term of twenty years, in exchange for an agreement to three big conditions. One, that America creates another national bank, despite Andrew Jackson’s valid reasoning for discontinuing such in 1836. The second and third conditions were that Britain’s 16th and 17th Amendments were ratified.[1] The national bank was the Federal Reserve Bank, which was completed and fully operational by 1913. Also in 1913 came the 16th Amendment. This chapter discusses the little-known, complete nature and relevance of these two big changes to American law and their affect on the American people.

On June 5, 1933, Congress passed House/Senate Joint Resolution (HJR 192). HJR 192 was passed to suspend the gold standard and abrogate the gold clause in the Constitution. As a result of the conditions set forth by HJR 192, no one in America has since been able to lawfully pay a debt.

The biggest effect of the New Deal on the people was that it changed who was to pick up the tab of the national debt. Instead of the United States being the debtor to America’s national debt, the new system’s goal is to make all of the American citizens individually the debtors, foisting the economic responsibility off of the government and on to its people. Sound atrocious? This plan, however, can’t legally be carried out without the American people agreeing to their “share” of the debt. No one in their right mind would voluntarily agree to a share of a debt that they themselves didn’t incur, so the U.S. government had to trick its citizens into becoming debt-slaves to foreign creditors.

“Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency.”[20] One result of this national emergency was the introduction of the so-called “alphabet agencies” – i.e. the FBI, the CIA, the DEA, etc. – implemented for the purpose of protecting the government from foreign terrorists, which – because the entity in control of the laws is Britain – is usually considered the American people.
U.S. economic history that Ron Paul wants every American to know: Pt. I - Grand Rapids Ron Paul | Examiner.com
U.S. economic history that Ron Paul wants every American to know: Pt. II - Grand Rapids Ron Paul | Examiner.com
U.S. economic history that Ron Paul wants every American to know: Pt. III - Grand Rapids Ron Paul | Examiner.com


Just how rich and powerful is lord Evelyn Rothschild? Historically, the Rothschild family wealth was hidden in underground vaults. The Rothschild's secret financial records are never audited and never accounted for. Their family commissioned biographies give the illusion that their family fortune has dwindled. But researchers estimate their wealth at close to 500 trillion dollars – more than half the wealth of the entire world.

On Sept. 19th 1812, Mayer Rothschild died at the age of 68. He left instruction that the amount of the inheritance must never be made public, that secrecy and ruthlessness must be used in all business practices and that family members must intermarry with their own relatives to keep the family fortune all in the same family.

All 5 brothers dedicated themselves to their ancestor's world revolutionary dream. That dream was to control the entire world under One World Government.

Mayer Rothschild's most successful sons were Nathan, who ran the London bank, and James who ran the Paris bank. Together they changed the face of history and became known throughout Europe as the Demon Brothers. Their father had given them a detailed NWO plan for world control. Adam Weishaupt wrote and completed the plan on May 1, 1776 with Rothschild financing. It was a futuristic plan that would put NWO members over the next century into political power positions.

It was a plan to divide and conquer the nations of the world, by provoking war then profiting from war loans and sales of weapons to both sides. Exhausted by war, terror and chaos, humanity would eventually bow-down to One World ruler and One World army as a solution.

It was a plan to control public opinion, by purchasing controlling shares in newspaper houses, TV networks, publishing houses and film studios.

Sports, games and alcohol would be used to distract the masses. Laws would be changed, banks would be monopolized and people and nations would be made into obedient debt-slaves


Nathan and James Rothschild had come up with a scheme that would put the Illuminati plan for world domination into action. It would also make them filthy rich.

The brothers helped finance both sides of Napoleon's famous battle at Waterloo, between the French and the English.

With advanced knowledge of the British victory, Nathan Rothschild spread lies that the British had been defeated, which caused a crash in the value of British Government bonds. While panicked English investors sold up their life savings, Nathan Rothschild bought-up their bonds for pennies on the dollar.

When official news of the British victory at Waterloo arrived, the English bond-market skyrocketed and so did Nathan Rothschild's wealth.

In one foul swoop, the Demon Brothers had double-crossed the English masses and taken control of the Bank of England.

Flaunting their tremendous wealth, the brothers went on a lavish spending spree. They bought mansions, fashionable clothes and hosted extravagant parties.


By 1818 they had fleeced the French investors, by crashing the French Government bond market.

According to plan, the brothers formed the first International bank and named it M. Rothschild and Sons.

The pope became their most famous customer. The Catholic Church which had financed the wholesale slaughter, torture and looting of hundreds of thousands of Muslims during the Christian Crusades, were now doing business with the Demon Brothers.

By 1823 the Rothschilds were guardians of the entire papal treasure and took over the financial operations of the Catholic Church.

Enraged citizens accused the Rothschilds of trying to control the world's money markets. Fearing for their lives, the Rothschilds retreated into the shadows and cast their eyes on the youthful USA. To avoid publicity, the Rothschilds made themselves invisible by creating and hiding behind two front companies. J P Morgan and Kuhn and Loeb.

By 1906 J P Morgan's bank controlled 1/3 of America's railways and over 70% of the steel industry. He eventually had a major stake in the 20th. century’s major companies. Among them ATNT, ITT, General Electric, General Motors and Du Pont.

Jubilee 2012 - The House of Rothschild

I was reading it until the Delta Force thing. Did Chuck Norris make an appearance somewhere in there?

lol

I wonder if Actorguy is doing any USD/EUR trades.

Originally Posted by NobleSavage

And I'm saying this as a British Citizen.

So your saying Ron Paul is full of shit?

And I thought that Donald Trump owned the world. Well, maybe in his mind. Unless, the EU can get everyone to agree to a fiscal policy that affects all of its members keeping it together under the present agreement is going to be tough. Especially, with the threat of further downgrades by some of the rating agencies.

There was an article in the NY Times saying that England stands to be negatively impacted regardless what happens to the Euro and there is not much they can about it.

Originally Posted by GForce

There was an article in the NY Times saying that England stands to be negatively impacted regardless what happens to the Euro and there is not much they can about it.

That's why they are writing a policy that protects London go figure.

Nobody cares about the Brit's losing their pants really but London IS Europe's economy.

I believe there are 23 European Union members of which 17 signed up to the common currency (Euro). From what I understand this agreement forged by Germany and France amongst other things requires that member states give up some of their sovereignty in order to keep the Euro alive. This may require member countries to see whether this agreement would be constitutional in their respective countries. In the meantime affected countries will continue to pay higher rates for loans and the markets will continue to fluctuate and credit tighten further. This is hardly over.