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    Default juicyvideos.com - 0.07 productivity after it changed owner!!

    An amazing 0.07 productivity!!

    Pulling all trades with Juicyvideos.com now. I wasn't aware it was sold not long ago. Have pulled trades with the new owners before. Nothing new under the sun...

    Kill your trades now, this is traffic washing.

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    its not only this site, a couple of others which switched to this layout utterly suck now
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    Quote Originally Posted by oil View Post
    its not only this site, a couple of others which switched to this layout utterly suck now
    Okij?
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    aren't those Bike's sites?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmateurFlix View Post
    aren't those Bike's sites?
    Juicy was the previous owner of juicyvideos and fihorn used to own okij
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    I meant adultwebmasternet. The owner posted here under the nick 'Bike' a few times http://www.askdamagex.com/f2/how-get...net-owner-522/ however I think it may have changed ownership since then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmateurFlix View Post
    I meant adultwebmasternet. The owner posted here under the nick 'Bike' a few times http://www.askdamagex.com/f2/how-get...net-owner-522/ however I think it may have changed ownership since then.
    Don't know if he still runs the show. Don't recognize any of the nicks. All I know is that they are shady as hell. Anyone can be a traffic tycoon using their methods. Never do any biz with any of the guys behind this
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    what exactly is he doing shady ?



    Quote Originally Posted by willwank View Post
    Don't know if he still runs the show. Don't recognize any of the nicks. All I know is that they are shady as hell. Anyone can be a traffic tycoon using their methods. Never do any biz with any of the guys behind this
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandman View Post
    what exactly is he doing shady ?
    They are actively washing traffic.
    "If you put a thing in the center of your life, who lacks power to nourish, it will eventually destroy you, and everything you are"
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    can you be more specific ?


    Quote Originally Posted by willwank View Post
    They are actively washing traffic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandman View Post
    can you be more specific ?
    You've been around long enough... When you receive 10k in avg with a prod of 0.07 from a fixed set of referring urls what kind of traffic do you think that is? Before the change of owners these sites had real god productivity. Everything changed over night. Pumped out tons of garbage in hope of some organic returns to their main pages. A site' characteristics does not change over night on its own. Ppl make that happen Enter with no referrer and see what trades you get.

    When someone told me on icq who now controls the sites it all made sense. Had trades in the past with these guys, deleted every single one of them. Nothing but poor quality shit.

    btw, a little bird told me on icq that there are pissed webmasters who used to have good trades with these sites but now only see crap prod.
    Last edited by willwank; November 2nd, 2010 at 09:50 PM.
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    i have honestly never seen prod that low i know those kind of sites dont send the best traffic tho.


    Quote Originally Posted by willwank View Post
    You've been around long enough... When you receive 10k in avg with a prod of 0.07 from a fixed set of referring urls what kind of traffic do you think that is? Before the change of owners these sites had real god productivity. Everything changed over night. Pumped out tons of garbage in hope of some organic returns to their main pages. A site' characteristics does not change over night on its own. Ppl make that happen Enter with no referrer and see what trades you get.

    When someone told me on icq who now controls the sites it all made sense. Had trades in the past with these guys, deleted every single one of them. Nothing but poor quality shit.

    btw, a little bird told me on icq that there are pissed webmasters who used to have good trades with these sites but now only see crap prod.
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    mhmm i gotta admit that williwank has a legit point with this traffic washing, although i was not familar with the term before
    anyway i openen a cleaned refferr brower and started clicking on another site of their network which i trade with. As summary i would say its from 50 clikcs
    1st) 15 clicks to galleries
    2nd) 16-40 clicks to galleries or ONLY their own other sites, no matter if it would be most likely that they need to sent out to some other site according to their toplist entries
    3rd) 41-50 normal trading, where other tradepartner comes up, and not only the one from their own network

    while click test with a refferer, showed normal clicks, like a lot of galleries and the the normal trades not only from their own network
    Softcore: Pussy - Vagina - Secretaries - Small Tits - Babes - Naked Girls
    Traffic: ... my personal choice of feeder traffic for the best price in the biz (down to 0.65 per K) ... get your account now as long its its fresh!

    NO JOKE - stop throwing money out of the window!! - click here - then hit up SGM_Andy on icq: 572278772 he will create you a whitelabel, and will provide you with everything you need!

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    that's an interesting algorithm, but I wouldn't think that would be the cause of such low prod as willwank pointed out only because the quantity of visitors from only noref traffic with 40+ clicks must be very low.

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    I see this network buying a lot of blind clicks from Traffic Holder/Traffic Shop.

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    OK, we usually don't spend much time posting on forums, but in this case we'll make an exception
    Willwank, that's a lot of accusations that you make. There's a lot of negativity here.

    You seem to think that there are all sorts of shady things 'going on', here at AdultWebMasternet: Bike (Mike) gone, new owners… traffic washing.
    Let me explain a few things.

    AdultWebmasterNet was started, operated and owned by Pete and Mike (cousins) from day 1.
    They've both been around in this business for more than 10 years. Last year Mike decided to retire and Pete bought Mike's share in the sites. That's not strange, or shady, at all now is it?

    The fact that you do not recognize any of our nicks doesn't say much either.
    Pete has been around for all that time and he has many (old-school) elite guys in his ICQ list, guys that still run the big sites.
    I'm no noob in this business myself either, working in the TGP/MGP biz since 2001. Many other (again, elite) webmasters and affiliate programs know me and I know them. I am in contact with them daily.
    So, you not recognizing our nicks doesn't really seem to be a good argument to convince people that they should not do business with us or that we're shady.

    In regards to what you mention about juicyvideos.com: yes, we bought that sites just like we buy other ones. Again, not shady at all, we paid good money for those sites and the sellers were happy to sell.
    Feel free to ask them how the transfer went, if there's anything to complain about. We even told them on beforehand that the site would be wiped clean and change to our model entirely.
    We asked the previous owners to inform submitters (if any), that the site would change ownership and that we wouldn't be able to continue accepting submissions.
    We asked if no hardlinks were sold on the sites, not to have people complain about their links being pulled. Does that sound like shady business to you?

    Then: 'Everything changed over night. Pumped out tons of garbage in hope of some organic returns to their main pages. A site' characteristics does not change over night on its own. Ppl make that happen'
    Did you even notice that we changed the entire site? Not a single page of the old structure or design was saved during the change. Does that make us shady then? Shady, because production dropped after the change? No.
    The production of our traffic tends to be lower than other sites' traffic, that's no secret and it's definitely not shady. It's been like that for the last 10 years.
    And I'm not talking about what you see on your site btw, I'm talking about -lower than average in general-. But it seems that a lot of guys that know what they're doing, are very happy to trade with us.
    I want to make clear here that we're not actively trying to 'pump out tons of garbage in hope of some organic returns'. That's ridiculous.
    We use standard atx1 with normal settings and we are are not trying to 'wash traffic'.
    It's your personal choice to trade traffic with us or not. If you only want to trade with sites that send you traffic that shows a high production on your site, then great.
    Just kill the trade and move on. Nothing new under the sun, just like you said.
    Calling us shady and telling other webmasters not to do business with us is a personal attack though and that doesn't make sense at all.

    Instead of letting us know about your frustrations, killing the trade and moving on, you choose to create a thread about how shady we are
    I don't remember that we ever had an email from you, or an ICQ message about this. This is a strange way to handle things I say. We're pretty much always online, a single email and we could have discussed this.
    You're really falsely accusing a company of being shady here. I think you need to get some real, solid proof that we're 'shady as hell' or not make these kind of posts.

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    I have more then a few trades of various sites owned by awn, didn't know bike sold his share, thats too bad.
    Anyway from my end prod looks normal....
    Anyway from someone who knows what he's doing I'll be more then happy to trade with a few more of your sites.... my icq is in the sig.
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    Spin Spin Spin

    I have been around long enough to know to not waste any more time on you. I'v killed every single trade I'v had with you guys and I moved on. If I still had my old trillian install it would show logs of me trying to contact you numerous times re older/previous trades, no luck.

    Have a happy new year
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    wow, using the word "elite" twice in the same post certainly lent credibility to that statement

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    Wowwww, Pete (adultwebmasternetcom) has a huge network nowdays, and there more werent listed at this list
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