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    Default FHG scam from TopHeavyAmateurs.com (ccbill)

    unfortunaltley sponsors seems to get used to scam FHG

    today i found this one:
    http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...na/default.htm
    (PA changed by my due you never know how sponsors act )

    which comes to a site with title "RD" which instantanousley redirects to:
    (couldnt see source code redirect was always to fast)

    redirects to:
    http://www.topheavyamateurs.com/fhg/anya/default.htm
    without any cookie information set, but thats not all,

    the view in the source code shows a meta refresh to:
    <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="60;URL=http://www.allkindsofbutts.com"> without any ref. code for sure
    (on IE right click is disabled)

    oki doki, i thought before making it public i write to the sponsor to hear his words, all his mail adresses bounced and came back immediately:
    Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

    so for now sponsor disabled, may he comes over to ADX with some explanations i would appreciate, since i just become a few days ago, their newsletter with new promo tools bla bla bla, but never mentioned anywhere they also took some FHG´s down
    Softcore: Pussy - Vagina - Secretaries - Small Tits - Babes - Naked Girls
    Traffic: ... my personal choice of feeder traffic for the best price in the biz (down to 0.65 per K) ... get your account now as long its its fresh!

    NO JOKE - stop throwing money out of the window!! - click here - then hit up SGM_Andy on icq: 572278772 he will create you a whitelabel, and will provide you with everything you need!

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    I just can't understand why sponsors do this, other than they want to make a quick buck and think affiliates are fools.

    FHGs are a great source of good traffic. I was very surprised at how much good traffic comte tfrom them and it just builds and builds. So why screw with the link codes?

    Traffic is about building slowly and surely, going for a fast buck is a fools approach.

    And yes I know we made a mistake with our coding in the beginning.


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    The guy has been around for years, but I've always felt it was a bit "shady".. Low percentage, traffic leaks, 2 sites... Could have made a lot of sales with my traffic.. a lot.. but I don't promote him because of it.. SiliconFree is another one like that.

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    could this sponsor please be moved to the shitlist!!

    did get the new FHG list today per email and it gets even better:
    PHP Code:
    <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="60;URL=http://www.allkindsofbutts.com"
    Softcore: Pussy - Vagina - Secretaries - Small Tits - Babes - Naked Girls
    Traffic: ... my personal choice of feeder traffic for the best price in the biz (down to 0.65 per K) ... get your account now as long its its fresh!

    NO JOKE - stop throwing money out of the window!! - click here - then hit up SGM_Andy on icq: 572278772 he will create you a whitelabel, and will provide you with everything you need!

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    LOL.
    Now that is a first timer! Hilarious!

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    Are you serious?
    Man what a lousy little filth nut must that be?
    Never seen a scam carried out that poor,
    ROFL!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oil
    could this sponsor please be moved to the shitlist!!
    Done.
    Work Smarter At Working Smarter

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    ok, im no fan of redirecting at all,
    but the ccbill cookie is carried to the signup forms for topheavyamateurs.com and allkindsofbutts.com.
    so if someones signups up via ccbill you may get paid.

    without any cookie information set
    the ccbill cookie was allready set in your link code:
    http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...=91368%26HTML=http://www.topheavyamateurs.com/fhg/jana/default.htm

    be sure to use a real ccbill pa to test it.

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    Smile hey all

    Hey All,

    I just recieved an email from one of my affiliates about this post here on AskDamageX and I wanted to come by and try and explain a few things in hopes of clearing it all up.

    I had never considered hosting my own FHGs and for the longest time just posted pics in our affiliate area so our affiliates could create their own. It worked and everyone seemed happy so I stuck with it.

    Back in JUNE 2007 I got an email from an affiliate who suggested I host my own FHGs to increase sales. I thought about it and it seemed like a good idea. So I did some homework and had a "friend" who coded to assist me in generating some pages and helping affiliate sales.

    He really screwed me over.

    He setup all the wrong links, all the wrong pages with all kinds of back doors into the passworded affiliates area. Big mess.

    Needless to say, I got shafted big time. All becuase I trusted him.

    My brandwidth charges went through the roof and in SEP I had to stand around shaking my head trying to figure out why my servers were dog slow and no sales.

    I found out why finally and dropped all the FHGs until I could get everything sorted.

    Thanks to some good people from some sites I have worked with in the past who are lending me hand, today I know what has been happening to my FHG pages.

    We have been working on all the FHG pages trying like hell to get everything setup the way it should be.

    Looks like we have most of it sorted now. No more redirects, no more changing code.

    I am still not 100% sure eveything he put in there is gone and that the code is 100%. But it will be soon. I have an gentleman from a top notch site helping me look over the code and with guidance I have rewritten many many FHG pages from scracth to be sure.

    I am just here to post and let you all know what we have been fighting for the past 6 months.

    I appreciate the guy who told me about this post and everyone who has lent a hand helping me fix this issue.

    I started out as an AFF and I know how frustrating some sites can be.

    Thats not my bag. I try to post quickly, fresh content, and assist my affiliates with any issues they have.

    On a side note, I would appreciate any suggestions to making our pages better to generate more sales for all those involved.

    Thanks for letting me post.

    Apprecated,
    BF


    Opps forgot one thing so I will have to edit.

    I dont know what OIL meant about the emails not getting to me and bouncing. My contact info is on the front page by the updates section where I post my write up for all to see and email me.

    It's posted there each and every update and it has been since I started the site. If there is any issue there, please let me know and we'll get that fixed as well.
    Last edited by bftha; December 27th, 2007 at 12:15 PM.

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    @ BF
    bouncing means i wrote to you, they returned to me, simply they couldn&#180;t be delivered

    anyway, i don&#180;t see the redirects anymore so i will add the galleries again

    on a side note: i sent a shitload of traffic to your sites, and never did get a email which where saying all the FHG are down, you really could have done that at least - i know youre around since long time - its not a big deal to admit you did something wrong, shit happens - but not letting your affilates know is pure crap

    i hope you learnt something from it
    Softcore: Pussy - Vagina - Secretaries - Small Tits - Babes - Naked Girls
    Traffic: ... my personal choice of feeder traffic for the best price in the biz (down to 0.65 per K) ... get your account now as long its its fresh!

    NO JOKE - stop throwing money out of the window!! - click here - then hit up SGM_Andy on icq: 572278772 he will create you a whitelabel, and will provide you with everything you need!

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    Default @Oil

    Thanks for re adding the galleries Oil. Appreciated.

    We did send out 2 mass emails about the FHGs being pulled. One thru our email list to the affiliates and one stright thru the CCBILL website form. Same as we send out the promo emails.

    We also posted a blurb on the front page of the Affiliates Area for THA (where the FHGs and model pics are posted) so everyone would know the first part of NOV.

    I apologize if you didn't get anything on it.

    We tried mailing lists for the affiliates thru the site awhile back, but that flopped big time and people got upset at others adding them to the list.

    We do our best tho...

    Any suggestions Oil (or anyone) on how to make it better? We have a buttload of traffic coming thru these days...

    BF

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    I never received any emails either... Last email I got was in March 2007

    I'd love it if you cleaned up any traffic leaks to bring your site(s) more inline with what affiliates expect. And the 2 sites thing for basically the same content irks me to no end.

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    Default @ Viper

    I know what you mean about the 2 sites. But it works out better for all. More cashflow with the two sites than just with one.

    As far as the traffic leaks, we created a page specifically for affiliates with no banners and links on it and it has been posted in the Admin area of the THA website.

    You should be able to link to that page easily enough.


    Thanks!
    BF

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    we created a page specifically for affiliates with no banners and links on it

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