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    Default CJ Ultra sending permanent links traffic to torrent sites?

    Bigsexnetwork signed up to trade with me, so i went to the site and clicked on my site in the toplist and was sent to, mightynova (dot) com which is a torrent site, instead of my site. Subsequent clicks to my site on the toplist actually went to my site.

    I thought it weird that my site was on the toplist yet i have received no traffic from them.

    Would anyone like to confirm this before they pull the torrent site link?
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    Default I'm bigsexnetwork.com staff

    I'm the owner of bigsexnetwork website.
    First I want to apologize if someone could have found something wrong on my website, especially regarding trade traffic. This is the first time I'm using this kind of tool. I have to do some more practice.
    Let me say that I'm using a free trade traffic that reserve a little percentage of traffic to their sponsor. Maybe I made something wrong in building the toplist.
    I will take a look to that so I can fix this issue that was not intended to be a cheat or something similar.
    What is the name of your site? Just for information.
    I will appreciate if you want to give me a help to fix this problems.

    Thanks and regards.
    Stefano
    [info][at][bigsexnetwork][dot][com]

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    Strange, that the owners of a cheat/malware/virus etc site, always found the tread quicly and give a reply...Oh and, "Posts: 1"

    Hmzzz. Make me think about it.

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    Default Me again

    I have take a look to the script but seems nothing is wrong, I have follow all the instructions from the readme file.
    Can you tell me when did you see this error on your link?
    Maybe were the earlier days the script was online and something was still not working well.
    I thought I have already fixed that.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsexnetwork
    I'm the owner of bigsexnetwork website.
    Let me say that I'm using a free trade traffic that reserve a little percentage of traffic to their sponsor. Maybe I made something wrong in building the toplist.
    That sounds like a pretty cheap excuse to me.
    All free trade scripts i'am aware of don't skim away from toplist links/clicks ....
    who is next after ibill, paymonde ....?

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    I said: "I made something wrong in building the toplist", this means that I have put the wrong link at the beginning using a link that skimming. So if someone was trading have found this error. I'm checking all the work I made in these last time after fixed this, but at now I don't have found the error described above. Error that you are treating like a fraud, that is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsexnetwork
    I said: "I made something wrong in building the toplist", this means that I have put the wrong link at the beginning using a link that skimming. So if someone was trading have found this error. I'm checking all the work I made in these last time after fixed this, but at now I don't have found the error described above. Error that you are treating like a fraud, that is not.
    what's the trade script by the way? Just curious which of the trade scripts sells their free skimmed traffic to torrent sites ?!?!
    who is next after ibill, paymonde ....?

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    CJ Ultra, I have already wrote to them to clarify this situation.

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    I checked the link literally minutes BEFORE i started this thread and the link setup hasn't changed since. So i think every excuse you're pushing is bullshit. You got caught out there because you signed up to trade with a webmaster that actually checks his trades toplist links.

    Toplist links like this, http://bigsexnetwork.com/tt/out.php?...t_happened.com shouldn't skim to anywhere. All clicks to sites in a toplist should go directly to that site...no if, ands or buts about it.

    My first click to my site was kicked to that torrent bullshit, i guess after that the cookie kicks in so it doesn't happen again to the same surfer more than once.

    You want my site? I'm one of the sites that's NOT sending you traffic.

    It also seems to me that you're trying to hide your tradescript by naming its folder /tt/ instead of /cju/...or is it just me being paranoid?
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    I think you should keep quite and be moderated. You are not talking to a criminal.
    - /tt/ for me is meaning tradetraffic, or I can't name my folder as I wish?
    - I'd like to know your site to check if you are still enlisted, to check better what happens.
    - You are not dealing with a cheater but a honest webmaster maybe newbie that could have some problems setting up the scripts.
    Since I have read your first post I checked and checked, I'm wondering and not happy to discover that following the instruction on readme file that link are skimming instead point to a domain.
    I have reply all the post that was trying to vilifing my site, using courtesy. I'm here to find a solution.
    Please can you tell me which page on my site has return this error to you? Because this is an error not depend from my
    will to cheat.
    I have write to the webmaster of the script if he can help me to understand how this could happen.
    Trust me or not I have never try to cheat.

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    Default CJ ultra forum

    Well, I found this post on the CJ Ultra forum:
    http://www.cjultra.com/board/showthr...highlight=perm

    so, it seems I'm not the only one who has suffered this problem.

    Then I will looking around for another trade script, paying to avoid this kind of problems.

    Just give me the time to redeem me, my only fault is that I don't have searched for others most trusted script.

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    Holy fucking shit, you guys are really starting to worry me... First off Pornonada you're really jumping to conclusions on alot of shit lately, what are you the internet police?

    First off, this guy isn't doing ONE thing wrong

    I've worked on cjultra modifying it and other stuff for my own personal needs for a long fucking time, shit, since before Lane even abandoned it...

    CJUltra skims 1% of all traffic going through out.php whether its the toplist, a thumb, or just a link going through it, thats why you got skimmed, if you download cjultra and open up common.php you will see a function called header_check() and inside that function you will see $head2 = "aHR0cDovL3d3dy5kYWlseWxvbGl0YS5uZXQvMS5waHA=" ; now if you base64 decode that weird garble in the variable you will get this domain, which is what Lane put in as what to use for the skim, http://www.dailylolita.net/1.php If you goto it, atleast when i did, i got mightynova.com as the first site i saw... that will explain everything here

    Now as to start calling people cheaters and scum without solid proof is pretty fucking bad and you all should be really fucking ashamed of it.

    I'm losing quite a bit of respect for a few people here... its astounding.

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    Keep quiet and be moderated? Who do you think you are? My father? I can say whatever i want to a webmaster that attempted to steal my traffic. It's called "being pissed" and you would be too if someone were attempting to steal from you.

    The ball's in your court. I have no need to repeat myself for a third time. Just clean your shit up for the other traders that signup to trade with you...you defo won't have to worry about me and my sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaysin
    Now as to start calling people cheaters and scum without solid proof is pretty fucking bad and you all should be really fucking ashamed of it.

    I'm losing quite a bit of respect for a few people here... its astounding.
    I posted in the correct forum and ANYONE in here could've confirmed what i posted (as you've just done). As far as i'm concerned my first post was completely accurate, i nowhere in that post called the webmaster a cheater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dred
    I posted in the correct forum and ANYONE in here could've confirmed what i posted (as you've just done). As far as i'm concerned my first post was completely accurate, i nowhere in that post called the webmaster a cheater.
    If you looked into it alittle more and asked around you would of got your answer before labeling bigsexnetwork.com a cheater or scumbag, and yes you did call him a cheater, by posting this thread in the CHEATERS & scumbags forum.

    your message:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dred
    Bigsexnetwork signed up to trade with me, so i went to the site and clicked on my site in the toplist and was sent to, mightynova (dot) com which is a torrent site, instead of my site. Subsequent clicks to my site on the toplist actually went to my site.

    I thought it weird that my site was on the toplist yet i have received no traffic from them.

    Would anyone like to confirm this before they pull the torrent site link?
    Want your confirmation? Cjultra is sending to the torrent site, not him, he had no idea it was, had no way to learn unless he knew the script inside and out and where to check, like i do, and why you're on the list is probably because he doesn't have enough traffic coming in to bump you off the list with sites that actually do send traffic....

    Questions answered, now the noble thing to do is to either delete or remove this thread from the cheaters and scumbag forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaysin
    If you looked into it alittle more and asked around you would of got your answer before labeling bigsexnetwork.com a cheater or scumbag, and yes you did call him a cheater, by posting this thread in the CHEATERS & scumbags forum.
    Looked into it a little more? Asked around? Looked into it a little more how? Asked around where and about what? I calls 'em as i sees 'em. Had HE done some research he would've know that issue BEFORE this thread. Why should i do his job for him? Isn't that what google and tradescript support forums are for?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaysin
    he had no idea it was, had no way to learn unless he knew the script inside and out and where to check
    Hmmm, really? I guess he didn't have to learn the script inside and out since he found and posted a link from CJU's forum asking about this exact same issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaysin
    Holy fucking shit, you guys are really starting to worry me... First off Pornonada you're really jumping to conclusions on alot of shit lately, what are you the internet police?
    I'am not the internet police and i'am far away from this, however, i have to manage cheaterhell and therefore i have to ask questions from time to time as i have done in this thread to see if the accusation is right or if what the accused site says in defences makes sense, this is improtant to see if it's a entry for cheaterhell or not, wheter you like it or not. Additionally i have just asked 2 questions about the situation, so what's your problem ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaysin
    CJUltra skims 1% of all traffic going through out.php whether its the toplist, a thumb, or just a link going through it, thats why you got skimmed,
    Are you 100% sure that a toplist link get's skimmed? It's hard to believe that even a free tradescript would do that, so i realy would like to know if you are 100% sure if toplist links get skimmed?!?!? It would be the first time i see this by the way...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaysin
    I'm losing quite a bit of respect for a few people here... its astounding.
    That's your right, you can have respect for whomever you want or not. But maybe you forget that this cheaterforum and cheaterhell are the best anti-cheater resource available so far and there is a good reason for that. It happenes from time to time that webmasters and sites are accused by mistake, but there where people work sometimes mistakes are done. Me personally has 10 times more respect for people that expose 100 times a cheater and make 2 times a mistake and excuse for these than for people that have done absolutly NOTHING against cheaters, exploiters or any other kind of shit but throw in their personal shit when eventually a mistake has be made, realy cool man ...
    who is next after ibill, paymonde ....?

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    Look, if it turns out that it truly is the tradescript and not the site then i sincerely apologize for my allegation. I'd even request the topic be renamed to CJUltra in place of bigsexnetwork.

    Considering someone asked the same question on the CJU board back in February and the thread still has no reply sends up a red flag instantly.

    Had HE checked out their board BEFORE using it then there wouldn't be a problem because an HONEST webmaster would've continued looking for a GOOD tradescript instead of sticking with one that knowingly skims the way you state it does.

    I don't know about anyone else but i normally check out a scripts support board to see what known issues they have and if they've been addressed before i make my choice...i consider that responsible webmastering (to keep your visitors coming back and subsequently converting, you have to actually care about them in some way, shape or form).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dred
    Look, if it turns out that it truly is the tradescript and not the site then i sincerely apologize for my allegation. I'd even request the topic be renamed to CJUltra in place of bigsexnetwork.

    Considering someone asked the same question on the CJU board back in February and the thread still has no reply sends up a red flag instantly.

    Had HE checked out their board BEFORE using it then there wouldn't be a problem because an HONEST webmaster would've continued looking for a GOOD tradescript instead of sticking with one that knowingly skims the way you state it does.

    I don't know about anyone else but i normally check out a scripts support board to see what known issues they have and if they've been addressed before i make my choice...i consider that responsible webmastering (to keep your visitors coming back and subsequently converting, you have to actually care about them in some way, shape or form).
    Title, Subject and Forum changed ....
    who is next after ibill, paymonde ....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaysin
    Holy fucking shit, you guys are really starting to worry me... First off Pornonada you're really jumping to conclusions on alot of shit lately, what are you the internet police?

    First off, this guy isn't doing ONE thing wrong

    I've worked on cjultra modifying it and other stuff for my own personal needs for a long fucking time, shit, since before Lane even abandoned it...

    CJUltra skims 1% of all traffic going through out.php whether its the toplist, a thumb, or just a link going through it, thats why you got skimmed, if you download cjultra and open up common.php you will see a function called header_check() and inside that function you will see $head2 = "aHR0cDovL3d3dy5kYWlseWxvbGl0YS5uZXQvMS5waHA=" ; now if you base64 decode that weird garble in the variable you will get this domain, which is what Lane put in as what to use for the skim, http://www.dailylolita.net/1.php If you goto it, atleast when i did, i got mightynova.com as the first site i saw... that will explain everything here

    Now as to start calling people cheaters and scum without solid proof is pretty fucking bad and you all should be really fucking ashamed of it.

    I'm losing quite a bit of respect for a few people here... its astounding.
    Thank you,
    this is the help I need, I check that file yesterday and I found this function but unluckly I'm not so skilled, I'm going to clean it right now.
    Cheers

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