Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

I don't who's seeing their traffic drop, but if it is, it's their own fault, not someone else's. There's plenty of people around building bigger networks all the time. Maybe the MGP guys are seeing this problem to a greater degree or something, but a tube site is an MGP so that's not really any surprise.


newsgroups? people still use those? I thought they pretty much got replaced by torrent sites, which is where the fight shifted to. Piracy will probably never be eliminated, merely contained. The fight needs to shift toward whatever is the biggest problem at the moment. Currently this is heading toward (illegal varieties of) tube sites.


If a site like Twisty's is feeling a pinch because of this then more/better updates isn't going to solve anything. There's already more content in that site than anyone with a layer skin left on his overworked shaft could possibly look through.

For sites with 20 videos and 5k pics yeah more content might help. Bigger sites that already offer more content than one person can wade through aren't going to see any further benefit, and frankly Shap's claim that giving up on this fight will lead to greater innovation or better content quality is the most fucking pathetic part of his arguement.

I can at least somewhat respect a person with balls enough to say "hey we're getting fucked and it's just not profitable for us to continue this fight".

However trying to wrap up someone's weakness under the guise of adapting to future trends while simultaneously telling the rest of the industry they're to blame for not delivering good enough content is simply insulting.